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The Vigilant Citizen (the website) is an AGENT!


DAMMIT SON!  I hate when I find out that one of the “truthers” is actually an AGENT/FRAUD!  Here’s how I know that this website is… I left a comment not once but TWICE offering a SOLUTION to this NWO nightmare and TWICE they removed it!  The third time, which just happened, they won’t allow the message to appear.  Now you tell me… if you’re offering SOLUTIONS, why would this site block that information from it’s readers?!  DAMMIT SON!  They’ve been removed from the blogroll, fellow people.  I was simply trying to let one reader (fluffy) know that KickThemAllOut.com is our best bet as the comment simply asked; “what can we do…”.  The funny (telling) thing about their actions is that I only went to read the updated comments and that’s when I noticed they were gone!!  You’ve been warned.

183 thoughts on “The Vigilant Citizen (the website) is an AGENT!

  1. Blows my mind. I check VC just as much as your site. But I had sent him 2 different stories that I thought he could break down and put in his own words for the masses, and he ignored me twice.. Oh well!

    • Hi there!

      I’ve been anticipating the backlash, but so far so good! 🙂 I’m certainly surprised is all I can say. I can see missing a request but to remove a comment twice days after it was posted… can you say BOOTY?!!!

      What I can’t figure out is why would he take the time to share so many valuable clues/insight? “Oh well” is right. People have been warned. 🙂

    • Hi,

      I was very fascinated with the articles on the VC website and found alot of reason behind them however I am interested in finding out WHERE he gets all the info from and how he hasnt been hunted down yet despite all the negative things he has said.

      Someone please explain

      • You are dead on. I was a fan (for lack of a better word) of his, until the Lord opened my eyes to see something today… I started realizing he is an illuminati member masquerading as a truth seeker. He is really using his blog to indoctrinate readers of it, and very very subtly brag about all the power and popularity the ‘elite society’ (as he likes to call it) has. Many of his things go very much in detail about MK Ultra programming. If you read it thoroughly, you start to catch at some point what he is doing is telling the reader, “Yes, if you do it it is going to be painful and the torture is unimaginable, but after you’re done you’re a whole nother person”. You’ll notice he never really speaks poorly of the illuminati, freemasons, and such. Only passes information. And that is because he is drawing interest and making people believe in it. Nor does he ever use his platform or influence to encourage people to believe in Christ (not even in his official “About Me” statement) or even profess Christ as his lord and savior himself. If a person knows that Satan is real and all this stuff is going on and is assumingly against it, why not choose a side and try to convince people to turn to God? Because he has chosen a side, and that side is not Jesus. Be very careful when reading VC’s site. Use the information, but use with your eyes wide open, fully awake, and 100% aware and alert of who VC really is and what is his ultimate agenda.

      • Sigh, a little thought would be much appreciated here. I’ll make a list, DEBUNKING THIS SO ALL YOU VC WATCHERS CAN RETURN SAFELY TO VC. Read Objectively please, thnak you

        1. Do you know why he doesnt come across as blatantly dismissing the agenda? Let me explain, firstly, when you have non-believers in Christ you dont want to scare them off and have them dismiss what you’re saying as “Christian imagination” This is a real agenda that is taking place and affects EVERYONE not just the Christian community and you want everyone to be aware of it. Christiainity is diminishing and it will only continue to diminish so if he appeals only to us Christians then when we are outnumbered everything is smooth sailing as the majority will discard it as “Christian imagination”. We already have a hard enough time getting past the “Conspiracy theorist” label as it is.

        2.VC makes his stance quite clear, what you all are doingis trying to fit eveidence to theory rather than theory to evidence. Suddenly its, “he’s promoting” cause he doesnt come out like a heavy handed slap to the face screaming ” HELL FIRE FOR ALL OF THEM!” No people, this is not the way to go about it (explained in first point above). But if you actually read what he says, he in no way supports these actions, he condemns them somewhat subtly (pretty obviously to me but some people need blatancy I guess) Using terminology such as this excerpt

        ” no regard for people they believe to be enlightened. Someone once said: “It is not about how much knowledge you have, it is about what you do with it”. What did Lucy do when she became the most intelligent person on Earth? Did she cure cancer? Did she find a solution to world hunger? Did she invent an economic system that is fair and profitable for all countries on Earth? Nope. She grabbed a gun a started shooting Asian guys. Even worse, she goes on to cause pain and suffering innocent people.”If one examines Lucy’s evolution, one realizes that she turns into exactly what the occult elite represents. She uses her powers to control people and to advance her aims despite the human suffering she is causing. She morphed into something that is not human and, all of a sudden, regular humans are treated by Lucy as lesser beings that are idiotic, manipulable and expandable.Lucy’s transformation takes a very specific direction and being a “good person” is not part of it. Her metamorphosis caused her to completely lack moral values, compassion and consideration for other human beings.”

        THIS IS A VERY CLEAR AGAINST STANCE, HE IS ANTI ELITIST AGENDA. He didnt have to write this, some people find this subtle, this is blatant and this “subtlety” is in Every Single One of his posts.

        3. You ae spamming his site with your own site promotion…that is spam, i would have removed your comment. It is spam and it is disrespectful to his site. You could have informed him privately and see if he incorporated these solutions( If they are even deemed viable) into his site. But to straight up advertise that site on his is distasteful and disrespectful. He has worked very hard to establish his base, his site wasnt always this large and for all he knows your site could be disinformation or eventually become one and he would be responsible for having people over there in the first place. I would not put my head on a block for some one else’s site just like that either.

        4. He does not have time to do every single show, every single news report, every single song, every sinister site, every movie, every event, every game, every symbolic cover shoot. Be real people. Firstly, the symbolism is extremely repetitive, see a few you’ve seen almost all you’ll ever see. Secondly, the sheer number and schedule is far too vast…I wonder if he has a life as it is with the amount of work he puts out. The constant research, the quotations from various sources for credibility, yikes. He stays very abreast with prominent major current events, songs and shows but honestly. You emailing him about a show and him not doing an article on it is not a valid reason. You think you are the only one emailing him shows to check out or songs? HA. You think he doesnt have his own shows and songs he thinks hsould be published? Be real. That is just spoilt brat behaviour.

      • Hi Justin! It WAS KickThemAllOut.com (read Putting it in Perspective– you’re gonna be shocked, man)! Now? I have no clue what to do other than mass-non-participation. We’re simply not ready for that though. They’ve got people addicted to EVERYTHING so non-participation would be very difficult to bring into fruition. My gut feeling… this was indeed the last election we’ll ever have. I do hope I’m wrong about that but the season is right for them to pull a big joker or ace at any time.

        When you read “Perspective” you tell me why The Vigilant Citizen didn’t want it posted? Because he (along with others) are known as CRAP… BRAINFART! They not disinfo agents… they have another name for what they do and I can’t believe I’m drawing a blank right now! lol I need a vacation BIG time! lol

  2. I am not sure about this one, mainly because he has always been deleting comments
    – Mainly deleting those that would disagree with his findings – I think it was his insecurity or him wanting to look like the only Truth-seeker
    I don’t understand why he would delete your NWO post but I think if you were to ask him, he would give you the “off topic” rule crap
    The message board is not heavily censored and its indexed in major search engines so I really dont currently see anything suspicious

    But in the past (late last year) I was suspicious of his ass
    One time I forgot my login information and when trying to make a new account, it said I couldnt with my ip address – ( so your storing our ip address)

    and then early this year when the message board came back up in April he was making all past and new members register or re-register to join and no one can see the board without being a member- and when asked he said that he was trying to protect the board and others thoughts , and I made a thread called the “New Board Order” which was quickly deleted but then everyone complained about the board rules and it not being accessible to everyone and shortly he reopened it for all

    The ip address I dismissed since he probably set an account limit per household

    • Hi BearKat!

      I can dig what you’re saying (I guess) but there are a few things I’m not digging about his tactics. Differences of opinion is what debate is all about. I may not like a comment, but I’m not going to delete it. Off Topic can be valid if those are the rules, but my comment was a direct response to a question which was related to the topic. I can’t really address the I.P. thing as I’m so not up to speed on all of that but VC deleting solutions is reminiscent of Alex Jones I know what he’s all about. I don’t like just talking about shit, I want answers! 🙂

      The funny thing about what took place is I actually left him a direct message in that last comment that didn’t get through… dude read it! hahaha Can you say “chicken shit”?! hahaha

    • I am an avid VC reader, but I did notice something strange a few months back when his writing style changed. I commented THREE times “This does not sound like VC, the tense the words the styling everything is different.” my comments continued to get deleted and then my IP was blocked. Since then, I’m convinced the real VC is gone.

      • Omg, I totally noticed the writing style changing a few months back too!!! I remember even thinking that he has someone else writing for/with him, but now I don’t know what to think… Very strange.

      • Hi Woah!

        VC is not the VC people once knew that’s for certain. I personally think he got tapped and sold out. Rest assured– Why O Why will NEVER sell out. I value my soul far more than any dollar. 😉

  3. i’ve had a little feeling about what you’ve said for a while, but was afraid of confirming it…
    well here’s more evidence
    too bad =/ we’ll see what happens–this will be exposed someday, hopefully soon

  4. Please don’t be ‘afraid’ (and that’s to anyone) of weeding out the dis-info frauds/agents. We NEED THAT CUZ honestly– I don’t like putting stock into fakers! His information IS solid (no doubt) but I’m thinking he sold out at some point, just like Alex Jones. The best I can summarize; they start out noble, seek real truth and then they get “tapped on the shoulder” by those ‘elite’ for some dough. It’s called “Co-Opt: (http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2011/07/who-is-arran-edmonstone.html ) At that point, the dissemination of information cease to exist for SOLUTIONS! And after all– those of us who ARE awakened are actually looking for answers (instead of preparing for the food shortage, et al) that’s looming, want muthafvckin’ answers… (lol)

    That’s all a sista’ who’s hip to NWO is trying to do. The bullshit that must be filtered to find the RIGHT answers isn’t cool with me. Sell outs need to be stomped out! (and by that I mean, stop listening to their shit. WE DO NOT ENCOURAGE VIOLENCE EEVVVEEERRRRR!)

    Hey! Can ANYBODY IN THE WORLD dig that? 🙂

    “Talk to a sista'” because I’m more than disappointed that I’ve gotta’ BLAST VC (of all sources)– been diggin’ him for a looonnng asssss time, fellow people!

    Thanks, oberservationalist for chiming in. Disappointing I know (because I really, really am) but we don’t have time for the bullshitters anymore! A clock is ticking whether we are aware of it or not. We need to spread information about SOLUTIONS is what I feel. “this will be exposed someday, hopefully soon”… soon indeed, my friend.

    Love, peace and soul (TRAIN), man! 😉

    • ok I am convinced
      A site like his that garners about 40k visits a day, even having celebs talking or should i say tweeting about it
      It all makes sense with his current comment censorship shit he got going on

      I can see most turning a blind eye to this as the author seems down to earth and is posting really good content but then when he takes down all those comments warning people you really have to ask yourself – who’s side is this guy on?

      Thanks for the link provided (it helped shaped my final decision) , I like the author but I fear that he exposes too much details about himself

      • Hi BearKat! I’m glad the link helped because that’s how it should be done.

        I didn’t realize he generated that many hits per day?! Now it does make sense why he’d remove a bonafide solution– it would go VIRAL! Yeah… there’s yet more proof something stinks in Denmark! Sho hate it. Oh yeah… I went back the other day because I was going to cut and paste “fluffy’s” question but guess what? He actually removed her comment too! “I can see most turning a blind eye to this as the author seems down to earth”… that’s my concern as well because appearing nice isn’t always right.

        I suggest the way that people confirm this for themselves… leave comments with solutions and see what you get. I remember another guy, Michael Tsarsion, who let me down in the same way so they really are infiltrating big time right now. Shit– don’t things feel like they’re being ramped up? 🙂

  5. That’s a pretty strange conclusion to jump to. What motive could the Illuminati possibly have for sounding the alarm over their own shenanigans?

    • Hi Dre!

      Well the best response I can give to that query… that’s exactly what “they” do. Lend truth with a dash of dis-info and or ‘cock’ blockin’. VC is actually not my “first rodeo” with this (but so extremely disappointed by this discovery of what he does). What I do know without any uncertainty… when solutions are blocked by so called “truthers”, they are double agents/two faced/mis-dis info people who ARE on a “payroll”. I simply encourage that you (or anyone) to read the linked material. Unlike VC or Alex Jones, Eric [follow the link] didn’t succumb’ but instead PUT THEIR ASSES ON BLAST!

      I’m only doing what I hope most would do so that we don’t waste our valuable time in seeking understanding and ANSWERS! That’s all, man. Nothing more or less. Again– just trying to warn folks. Shit wasn’t and won’t be cool in my book.

      • Mmm, I have to say, one thing that has been striking me after reading articles and comments on VC, is the total lack of solutions to all the grim stuff he’s addressing. It’s like all the comments show a total lack of optimism and wanting to seek positive alternatives. No wonder I’ve been feeling kind of demoralised myself, after reading stuff on VC.
        Well, it’s good to be aware of this, thank you for bringing this info out to us other seekers! ❤

  6. I’ve been reading VC’s site for awhile now as well. In fact, he’s the one that “opened” my eyes to all this crap. I’m friends with Esoteric Kitten on Facebook as well. Through Kitten I’ve had people message me and ask to be friends…one person started messaging me constantly and at that exact same time I began having very disturbing dreams about clowns and thugs breaking into my house and trying to kidnap my daughter. Also, one night, someone knocked on the wall outside of my bedroom..when I went to look, of course no one was there. This shit is real, and it affects us all. With anyone spouting out about MK Ultra and mind control watch your back and what you say back to them, if anything at all..the next phantom knock could be on your door! I wondered when I first read through VC’s site…wow, how can he expose all this stuff and not get knocked off? Figured out..it’s cuz he’s one of THEM!

    • Hi Cathy!

      “wow, how can he expose all this stuff and not get knocked off? Figured out..it’s cuz he’s one of THEM!”… haha… that’s exactly what made me re-examine alex jones! Aaron Russo, Rik Clay and others, gone– but alex’s loud mouth is still running? Does not compute. And it’s cool that you have contact with Esoteric Kitten… I would love to get in touch with her! (but I stay clear of Facebook): https://yoy50.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/facebook-founder-called-trusting-users-dumb-fcks/

      I do get a little concerned about bringing the topic to light, but I’m no where near what they seek (audience isn’t nearly large enough for them to be too concerned at this point). But… I did hear EsotericKitten on Wash Your Brain! She’s one tough cookie (I like her style)! I hope you wouldn’t mind passing the message along that I’d love to chat with her. I’m very concerned about MonarchButterfly71 (youtube) too. This stuff is frighteningly real, isn’t?!

      “one person started messaging me constantly and at that exact same time I began having very disturbing dreams about clowns and thugs breaking into my house and trying to kidnap my daughter.”… was this person sending negative messages? I’ve only begun to scratch the surface on the subject, so I’m unfamiliar with this aspect of it. But I’m not looking forward to any harassment should it come along so in the back of my mind– I stay alert to it.

      Thank you soooo much for chiming in. I can’t believe I’ve gotta’ find another source now! hahahaha

      Jazz 😉

      • Sorry it took me so long to reply back…my home computer does not like your website : ( My home computer doesn’t like a lot of websites now a days! As far as the messages go..it was 2, I believe, different people who messaged me and told me they were MK Ultra survivors and that they were in hiding and a lot of other weirdness. I thought, if you are in hiding, why are you messaging a complete stranger (me) on facebook? It just didn’t add up and then the dreams and the unexplained knocking totally freaked me out! I just shut down and stopped thinking about it and the “psychic harrassment” stopped. I have no other way to explain it. That’s why I normally just read everything I can get my eyes on and don’t participate. I’m aware but unfortunately too chicken to actually do anything about it. I shield myself and my family agaisnt it all and that’s about it.

      • Hi Cathy! I’m sorry the site isn’t working that well on your computer but glad you could make it back!

        “I thought, if you are in hiding, why are you messaging a complete stranger (me) on facebook?” I know, right?! hahaha Facebook tracks everything.

        I can feel you being intimidated by all of that but I know only one thing that can defeat it all! The Almighty! Pick a prayer of protection and let him do the rest! 🙂

        Heck, for all we know, that could be another secret weapon they’re testing on us. When I read the plans for project blue beam, that illusion is probably going to be very successful because they will have this image speaking directly to you, the individual. It’ll all be in your mind of course but the technology will make you think it’s coming from an outside source. Wickedness is definitely on the loose right now.

        I’m glad you were able to follow up on this because I was very intrigued! Take care, Cathy!

        Jazz

  7. Well, it is certain that he is very much into the occult. The question would be, why? I knew this in the beginning when I first ran into his site, and I figured it was because he was trying to expose the elites’ involvement in occult practices. In order to expose something and know what you’re talking about, it would make sense to do heavy research into the occult. However, once you pay attention, you’ll notice that he’s actually sort of promoting the occult. He doesn’t really provide solutions to anything he posts. He claims to be a mystic Christian, but his articles never have anything that indicates his allegiance to Jesus or God. I honestly believe that he is involved with the occult. He owns secretarcana.com as well as knowledgefiles.com. If you visit Knowledge Files, he has a very wide selection of books on witchcraft, Alchemy, Freemasonry, many Satanic ones, and he seems to make them easily available and promotes them. Now, I’m not saying I know that he is working for the elite for sure, I’m just giving my personal opinion on what I’ve observed. Doesn’t it all seem strange? You would think someone with as big of an audience as he has would make it clear whose side he is own, but yet it is not clear. That can only mean one thing. He is a disinformation shill. Also, he posts many articles about various mind control related topics, but I notice he refrains from exposing all the real documented stuff the government doesn’t want people to know. It’s almost as if he only posts things that the elite don’t care if people find out or know about. He refrains from posting about the various underground bases/cities (such as Mount Weather, etc.) that are paid for by our tax dollars that actual exist in secrecy. He refrains from posting about one of the biggest government coverups of all time, The Franklin Cover-Up (Lawrence King, Paul Bonnaci,). You would think he would post about these kinds of things, but I notice there are certain subjects he just will not touch. I thought it was just because he didn’t want to be another William Cooper and die under “mysterious circumstances”, but now I think it is because we know what side he is really on.

    • You are dead on. I was a fan (for lack of a better word) of his, until the Lord opened my eyes to see something today… I started realizing he is an illuminati member masquerading as a truth seeker. He is really using his blog to indoctrinate readers of it, and very very subtly brag about all the power and popularity the ‘elite society’ (as he likes to call it) has. Many of his things go very much in detail about MK Ultra programming. If you read it thoroughly, you start to catch at some point what he is doing is telling the reader, “Yes, if you do it it is going to be painful and the torture is unimaginable, but after you’re done you’re a whole nother person”. You’ll notice he never really speaks poorly of the illuminati, freemasons, and such. Only passes information. And that is because he is drawing interest and making people believe in it. Nor does he ever use his platform or influence to encourage people to believe in Christ (not even in his official “About Me” statement) or even profess Christ as his lord and savior himself. If a person knows that Satan is real and all this stuff is going on and is assumingly against it, why not choose a side and try to convince people to turn to God? Because he has chosen a side, and that side is not Jesus. Be very careful when reading VC’s site. Use the information, but use with your eyes wide open, fully awake, and 100% aware and alert of who VC really is and what is his ultimate agenda.

    • Sigh, a little thought would be much appreciated here. I’ll make a list, DEBUNKING THIS SO ALL YOU VC WATCHERS CAN RETURN SAFELY TO VC. Read Objectively please, thnak you

      1. Do you know why he doesnt come across as blatantly dismissing the agenda? Let me explain, firstly, when you have non-believers in Christ you dont want to scare them off and have them dismiss what you’re saying as “Christian imagination” This is a real agenda that is taking place and affects EVERYONE not just the Christian community and you want everyone to be aware of it. Christiainity is diminishing and it will only continue to diminish so if he appeals only to us Christians then when we are outnumbered everything is smooth sailing as the majority will discard it as “Christian imagination”. We already have a hard enough time getting past the “Conspiracy theorist” label as it is.

      2.VC makes his stance quite clear, what you all are doingis trying to fit eveidence to theory rather than theory to evidence. Suddenly its, “he’s promoting” cause he doesnt come out like a heavy handed slap to the face screaming ” HELL FIRE FOR ALL OF THEM!” No people, this is not the way to go about it (explained in first point above). But if you actually read what he says, he in no way supports these actions, he condemns them somewhat subtly (pretty obviously to me but some people need blatancy I guess) Using terminology such as this excerpt

      ” no regard for people they believe to be enlightened. Someone once said: “It is not about how much knowledge you have, it is about what you do with it”. What did Lucy do when she became the most intelligent person on Earth? Did she cure cancer? Did she find a solution to world hunger? Did she invent an economic system that is fair and profitable for all countries on Earth? Nope. She grabbed a gun a started shooting Asian guys. Even worse, she goes on to cause pain and suffering innocent people.”If one examines Lucy’s evolution, one realizes that she turns into exactly what the occult elite represents. She uses her powers to control people and to advance her aims despite the human suffering she is causing. She morphed into something that is not human and, all of a sudden, regular humans are treated by Lucy as lesser beings that are idiotic, manipulable and expandable.Lucy’s transformation takes a very specific direction and being a “good person” is not part of it. Her metamorphosis caused her to completely lack moral values, compassion and consideration for other human beings.”

      THIS IS A VERY CLEAR AGAINST STANCE, HE IS ANTI ELITIST AGENDA. He didnt have to write this, some people find this subtle, this is blatant and this “subtlety” is in Every Single One of his posts.

      3. You ae spamming his site with your own site promotion…that is spam, i would have removed your comment. It is spam and it is disrespectful to his site. You could have informed him privately and see if he incorporated these solutions( If they are even deemed viable) into his site. But to straight up advertise that site on his is distasteful and disrespectful. He has worked very hard to establish his base, his site wasnt always this large and for all he knows your site could be disinformation or eventually become one and he would be responsible for having people over there in the first place. I would not put my head on a block for some one else’s site just like that either.

      4. He does not have time to do every single show, every single news report, every single song, every sinister site, every movie, every event, every game, every symbolic cover shoot. Be real people. Firstly, the symbolism is extremely repetitive, see a few you’ve seen almost all you’ll ever see. Secondly, the sheer number and schedule is far too vast…I wonder if he has a life as it is with the amount of work he puts out. The constant research, the quotations from various sources for credibility, yikes. He stays very abreast with prominent major current events, songs and shows but honestly. You emailing him about a show and him not doing an article on it is not a valid reason. You think you are the only one emailing him shows to check out or songs? HA. You think he doesnt have his own shows and songs he thinks hsould be published? Be real. That is just spoilt brat behaviour.

  8. Hi there, Guest77!

    He’s most assuredly a disinformation shill. It’s a frustrating process to discover but I continue to remind myself that this incredible chess game has not been orchestrated by the feeble minded– they are quite clever.

    “He doesn’t really provide solutions to anything he posts”… I was beginning to notice that myself and was loosing interest but when Winehouse died, I was eager to get his take on it hence the discovery of his fraud. And it is remarkable that he doesn’t actually post the many government PDF’s that are online these days– I post tons of them! And the Franklin Cover Up was just incredible and I can’t believe how many people have never heard of it! I keep saying that our government is ran by a bunch of nasty, freaky, frat house boys where the skies the limit!

    Believe me, I’m not trying to get my ass killed but I’m not trying to be co-opted either. There is this urgency that is prevalent (IMHO) so I think it’s important expose the frauds so we aren’t wasting our time. I still can’t believe how many people refuse to believe the score on Alex Jones (smh).

    BTW, does VC go by VC Advocator (?) on his Forum page? Saw a comment that accused my site of being the troll (shill) when I exposed him…

    Thanks for the comment and welcome to family! 😉

  9. You’re pretty bang on. There are two members of his inner circle that can confirm he is a disinformation specialist and indeed part of the agenda of externalizing what was until now secret. Alice Bailey wrote about this in her occult literature which helped spawn the Lucis Trust (formerly Lucifers Trust) current publishing arm of the United Nations. Nearing the inception of world government and to make the majority of people succumb to their will the elite knew then and are putting in motion now the externalization process. As a mason and someone who has good writing skills as well as once being a well versed journalist in the entertainment industry, Mr. Vigilant Citizen is merely an arm of this agenda. He has many accomplices on the site, as well as parades around in vary guises himself. To get more information on this agenda read Alice Baileys Externalization of the Hierarchy. Basically in the time when the elite want to enslave the masses, best way to go about doing it is having the masses voluntarily enslave themselves. Pitting the worlds religions against each other, forced food shortages and using Tesla technology to bring about global environmental catastrophies they will help create fear, however in doing so a good Hegelian dialectic must be enacted so that they have the solution as well. The story will be that the world was not ready for the complete truth therefore it had to be hidden in plain sight (symbolism) and secrecy had to be shrouded around it so that people began getting curious and began seeking. “seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and all else shall be added upon you” will be the motto. The general populace will have needed to be led to believe these people were doing wrong in order to want to expose them, and in the process the externalization can begin where what people once saw as evil (and it is) can be changed to be viewed as good, Mr. Vigilant Citizen is but only one of the pawns being used to bring this about. By purposefully hiding symbolism in the entertainment industry and leaking bits and pieces of information to VC, his controllers (just those above him with only a little bit of information more than him) can use his talents to reach teens and young adults (his demographics) through the crafted symbolism embedded in the entertainment industry targeted towards them. Exposing this gives the elite what they want, the minds of the next generation, and creates trust in a source like VC for them. The elite will have to reveal themselves in due time, but not before the masses can be conditioned to accept that all of this was for their own good. VC is being positioned to be a source they trust and the process of conditioning is well under way.

    In order to maintain interest a variety of characters are assisting VC in this mission. Seemingly of differing belief systems these assistants create what is known to be the controlled opposition pitting Christians vs Muslims and Pagan/New Age and/or Athiests against all others. Usernames who are assisting VC include but are not limited to:

    Henrik of Illomennation.com – a Gnostic a Christian veiled as a fundamentalist
    Daciple – a former ex-con who has found Christ whilst in prison now preaching all other belief systems are Satanic
    Chainmaker – regularly gets banned to create the illusion that he’s merely just another crazed Bible Thumper
    Truthseer – the Islamic version of Daciple
    Hexa – as above
    Tweeterfist – Christian moderator often seen as trying to bridge the gap between he warring faction of Islam vs. Christianity. Ecumenicism in action.
    Vibrating Pickle – New Age wing nut, believing to be VC himself.

    VC’s alter ego is Hartwell, an administrator that comes across as neutral in all manners. This persona allows VC to rule over his board without he himself being seen as an individual possessing a heavy hand.

    Former inner circle members:
    GreySanity
    RussianNika

    Both were relieved of their positions after phase one of the VC boards were complete and that was the documentation of real individuals who were onto the agenda and were bringing awareness to the lost within the message boards. In order to excise these people an individual by the name of Henrik was brought along to befriend many of the Christians on the board to help influence their war over those who were just a little closer to the truth than others. By brute force this faction rooted out those who could expose the plan sooner rather than later, which resulted in a reset of the boards in April of 2011.

    This information can be confirmed through several sources who have obtained screen shots from both Grey Sanity (now known as Loki) and RussianNika had with Vigilant Citizen discussing and confirming all of these details via private message. An affair erupted and ended poorly between RussianNika and Grey Sanity,

    Is that not ironic. The pursuit of pussy usually makes things complicated.

    GS and RN became intimate during this whole process, and being that they were in close distance with each other an affair broke out. When it ended badly as most hurt women who have had their emotions tampered with, RN began to talk and share some of this with some of the users asking them go remain silent, She probably should have known better, and people who are attracted to conspiracies love a good drama. Her stories were confirmed by photos she shared her and GS.

    Who would have thought that what might, on the surface, appear to be a scam could rival the best day time soap operas running today?

    VC the site, is more than a petty scam however. It’s a disinformation source that is helping to condition the youth of today into accepting the coming NWO,

    DatSimple

    • Hi DatSimple and Welcome!!!

      “Who would have thought that what might, on the surface, appear to be a scam could rival the best day time soap operas running today?”… whodathunkit?! WOW! “The pursuit of pussy usually makes things complicated”… I know, right?! LOL!

      I actually had no clue of the layers involved with this site but I’m becoming increasingly aware of how very sophisticated this chess game is. You’ve managed to get a pretty darn good handle on things too! I am impressed and oddly, encouraged. It is really refreshing to have someone stop by who really “gets it”! I wish this was more widely known but I’m finding that when people “look to a person” it is extremely difficult for them accept anything else. Alex Jones and Michael Tsarsion (?spelling) are equally misleading the masses but no one believes they would ever betray them. It is so unnerving to see the mass mind control or programming be so effective– millions are absolutely clueless. Too many are primed to accept any agenda they’ll usher in.

      I’m curious, are you familiar with Rik Clay and his sophisticated mapping of the 2012 Olympics? See… the one barometer I’ve found for the real people who put their necks on the line to give us this information, they usually don’t last for long. Six feet under is usually the end result for their efforts and Clay (like Aaron Russo) are gone. One other curiosity (since you really do understand this stuff)… what are your thoughts on Julian Assange? I feel like the guy is genuine (especially when I see his interview in the John Pilger film “The War You Didn’t See). I’ve researched and found some suspicious things but a lot of those things also feel like sabotage of his credibility too. Any thoughts?

      So glad you stopped by and shared this EXPLOSIVE insight about that site. I’m mad that I wasted my time and even linked a few of his articles. Hopefully this will help people see the light of day about him.

      P.S. Once initially approved for a comment on wordpress your comments will appear automatically. Sorry it wasn’t approved early (been working on another post). 🙂

      • Re:Julian assange- have u seen the illuminati card game from the 80s/90s? There a card there with a likeness that sparks a few thoughts.
        In fact most of the cards… Eerie i think. Horrifying even.
        Thought or info on this. ???
        I’ve only just begun to open my eyes to this truth and the intricate Web and all its possibilities has intrigued my mind soooooo very … It’s just.
        Hidden in plain sight. With signs and arrows and maps and diagrams.. Lol I crave to learn more

      • Hi there Earthling and welcome to the party!

        I’m totally aware of those darn cards! Absolutely chilling to know they even exist! (https://yoy50.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/did-you-know-4/).

        “I’ve only just begun to open my eyes to this truth and the intricate Web and all its possibilities has intrigued my mind soooooo very…”– I can ABSOLUTELY relate! But be prepared because you WILL experience a wide range of emotions the more you uncover. Once you’ve fallen down the rabbit hole, you will not be able to turn back. It is the most intriguing thing we can discover that’s for sure.

        There’s plenty of stuff here that will help in your research (at least I hope so). I always like to remind people of this reality (in hopes that they’ll actually get off of their asses and stop going along with the program): https://yoy50.wordpress.com/2011/04/19/u-s-concentration-camps-officially-confirmed/) and I’m convinced this is why we will actually NEVER get to the truth of 9/11, unfortunately, because if it really went down like William Lewis describes– it’s a done deal: https://yoy50.wordpress.com/2010/12/20/a-must-watch-and-listen/

        And just in case you’re a sports fan, I hope like hell this (as well as beyonce’s possession) will discourage you (and anyone else) 😉 https://yoy50.wordpress.com/2011/12/17/alert-the-superbowl-is-a-sex-trafficking-haven-welcome-to-the-real-world-alert/

        So glad to see that some are finally trying to lift their veils. While I do believe that the end is inevitable one day, I do think we have a real chance to ‘change the direction’ of things. I think there’s something that’s referred to as the age of awareness or something like that. We are suppose to be awaking to SOMETHING, I’m sure of it. Each time we were destroyed, guess what? He (God) gave us a chance to CHANGE OUR WAYS! 🙂

        Jazz

    • Well I find it funny that I’m accused of BS I’m not apart of, I’ve never been to prison I am not an insider of VC considering I spent the better part of 2 yr accusing him of being willfully or ignorantly a shill who is externalizing the hierarchy n got into many heated discussions w and about him. Calling out his Gnostic BS as it is…

      Whomever Duh is they surely aren’t telling the truth about me nor my friend Chainmaker so take thier BS w a grain of salt…

      Neways I’m done w the ignorant he said she said web drama I have better things to do w my life now enjoy your nonsense my friends take care 8)

      • I find it funny how someone comes in and impersonates me after I finished receiving an email alerting me to this message. What the imposter Daciple above says that is true is that Vigilant is a shill. I can prove it. He deleted a lot of my messages to his board that proved he was a Gnostic Satanist, but I have saved them and I am actually debating a puppet that I believe is VC himself who is willfully ignorant and purpsefuly leading people into destruction by spreading gnostic luciferianism. This time I’m saving all my messages and posting them to a free blog which is linked here so you can verify for yourself that Vigilant Citizen who is also known as both Mitch Joel and Michael Kanfi can’t erase it. That’s right VC we know who u r [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR].

      • I find it funny how someone comes in and impersonates me after I finished receiving an email alerting me to this message. What the imposter Daciple above says that is true is that Vigilant is a shill. I can prove it. He deleted a lot of my messages to his board that proved he was a Gnostic Satanist, but I have saved them and I am actually debating a puppet that I believe is VC himself who is willfully ignorant and purpsefuly leading people into destruction by spreading gnostic luciferianism. This time I’m saving all my messages and posting them to a free blog which is linked here so you can verify for yourself that Vigilant Citizen who is also known as both Mitch Joel and Michael Kanfi [EDITORS NOTE: these names remain as they are found in Wikipedia] can’t erase it. That’s right VC we know who u r [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR], or shall I say we know that ur two people postng to your website.

      • Well that’s just not right there [Removed by Administrator for Privacy]. Trying to out the Vigilant Citizen is just not cool. I suggest this book for you. It will help you get over the delusion of grandiosity that has you convinced you are doing God’s work

        http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/wordpress-com-blogger-scores-book-deal-for-you-are-not-so-smart/

        Here’s an exerpt

        “You Are Not So Smart is a celebration of self delusion. One topic at a time, it explores how silly and irrational we all are through the lens of fascinating psychological studies,” David says. “For example, you may think that you see everything going on before your eyes, but you are only aware of a small amount of the total information your eyes take in, and even less is processed by your conscious mind and remembered.”

        That’s right [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR]. You should celebrate your self delusion. The one that has you confused as a modern day savior of others, and focus on saving yourself from your self delusion so you can become whole again. That’s what your savior wanted. He wanted you to become whole!

      • Oh and Mr [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR], would [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR] be proud that her son is being unkind to a true good samaratin like Vigilant Citizen who has spent a great deal of time and energy to create a website to bring information to people about what is transpiring in the world against them?

        Is that the sort of honesty and integrity you have been raised as? A true follower of God?

        [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR], if you had any real honesty and integrity why don’t you go through the efforts to create as elaborate and informative a site as the Vigilant Citizen, instead of being a parasite and trying to attack him from within his website from nothing more than your own deranged ideas of who he is.

        You do seem to have an awful lot of time spending hours upon hours composing rather illiterate responses to anyone that you think is a gnostic luciferian, including going after the founder himself. Show some respect when in the house of someone else.

        For your information [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR], Vigilant is not a satanist. He is not an illumanist. He is not a gnostic luciferian as you contend. Being a mystical Christian can be seen as no more than someone who seeks an experience of God, or an experience of the Holy Spirit.

        Have you ever been in the midst of the Holy Spirit [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR]? Maybe that’s exactly what the Vigilant Citizen is in? Have you thought about that ever, rather than trying to hurt his reputation while taking advantage of his hard work? That’s parasitical. Create your own website instead of whining about someone who has done nothing but spread good.

        I’ll ask again would [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR] approve of that sort of behavior? I don’t think so, and I doubt that Mitch Joel and Mickael Kanfi would like for you to continue dragging their names through the mud either.

        So please try to get yourself a better outlook on life and help your friends too. Jesus loves you, and all of us love you too.

      • The second message isn’t me idc to play your silly games [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR], idc about VC or who he really is or isn’t, n I don’t know a damn thing about [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR] or [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR] whomever is, I never commented on them or give a crap about them.

        Nor do I give a crap about who you [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR]is nor [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR]nor anyone else my goodness I have no clue why you are so utterly obsessed with me.

        If you were a man of Christ then you’d simply leave me alone as I asked months ago n you demanded of me. But have fun impersonating people then arguing with urself lol be well [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR]be well VC be well Dan be well to all or one of you God Bless.

      • well obviously someone has studied my articles to vigilantcitizens wesbite well enough to know how to impersonate me. People who know me well enough know that I bid ado to [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR] a long time ago and wouldnt keep mentioning his name or anyone elses for that matter. It’s utterly and blatantly wrong to do so. I dont know what beef vigilant has with me either because all I did was call him out on a blatant gnostic view of scriptures and anyone who knows the real Bible knows that the gnostic lies are luciferian and are driving the new world order and are a big part of Alice baileys doctrine. Moreover reading the exernalization of the heirarchy would make it plain view that Vigilant is following the same direction and idc what anyone thinks. NEWays, I have better things to do that argue about who is the real me and who is the imposter so you kids have fun pretending to be me or whatever makes you happy.

      • I can confirm what Daciple says that Vigiliant Citizen is most definitely a Gnostic Luciferian and I have been banned for calling out Satanists on his stie for who they are, satanists.

        I’m absolutely convinced that VC is a Ashkenazi Zionist puppet, a fake Jew. The Jews of the Bible were the same race of the people that make up the middle eastern races these days. The Ashkenazi are fake jews and anytime I provided evidence for this it was deleted on his boards and I was banned. I recently got a permanent ban for calling out a blatant luciferian ideological practice, or in short satanic practice in this thread

        http://vigilantcitizen.com/vcboards/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6381&start=240

        Vigilant Citizen does not support free speech and that is proven by my bans. He silences his critics by deleting their informative and evidence based posts. He did that to my buddy Daciple and has done that to me and it’s only because we speak the truth!

    • Maann– that’s crazy!!! And the name of the website “twistedimage”… it’s always in plain sight, isn’t it?

      P.S. I don’t know what’s going on with your comments… I seem to continue to have to approve them. I’ll send wordpress a note. 😉

  10. I suppose I bare some responsibility in the direction this exchange appears to be heading and I will have to go back and censor the name that was given in your comment, The Vigilant One. I believe in free speech (except the n-word) on this blog but I’m not really cool with allowing a name or phone number or anything personal being disclosed during a difference, especially when I’m not in a position to judge these accusations on either side. When this was approved earlier, I simply saw it related to “VC” without reading any content.

    What I should have stated from the start before things got to this level is; “Payton place may be what The Vigilant Citizen is, was (OR whatever) about but I can only speak about what I experienced which is that he blocked a solution and that equates “co-opted” and on the payroll.

    My focus remains on the actions that occurred and my desire to inform anyone who gives a damn;

    DON’T WASTE YOUR TIME!

    I sure hope this won’t be the cause of some craziness like a ‘twitter beef’ gone bad either. Again. My focus is about the deception and mis-dis information. I loath the idea that I have to go back and censor any part of your comment but, I can’t allow someone’s birth name to appear.

    Jazz

  11. I will make sure VC knows about this site and I sincerely hope that he’ll sue the owner for libel and defamation. Not only does the site insults and attacks VC without anything resembling proof, it hosts comments personally attacking other individuals. This site is disinformation. I will personally report this site to WordPress.com as it goes against terms of use.

    • Jims… Vigilant Citizen is well aware of this sites claims– he’s known from the very start. I left him a direct message confronting him on his tactics. If he didn’t read it at the time, he certainly read it at some point as the administrator.

      I do agree that the use of real names is not okay but as I mentioned with the last comment– I’d only approved without reading. I try to approve new comments in a timely fashion but sometimes my schedule doesn’t permit the time to read and reply and I didn’t expect such mud slinging to occur. I was absolutely intrigued by the soap opera type atmosphere described because I had such a completely different opinion of the site.

      Alert whomever you like. I stand my grounds on the action I took to alert people “not to waste their time”. And if you think about it– where are his solutions? And why would he block a comment that offers one? Not illegal of course but people who understand “co-opt” recognize his actions. He’s not alone– he’s in popular company with Alex Jones.

      The names will be redacted of course because I FEEL it’s wrong– not because of your baseless threat.

      To Daciple 1, 2, 13 and whatever & VC The Real One & Duh

      The battle you guys are in can go on all day long as far as I’m concerned– just respect the request of not including real names (if they are indeed real names). Your points can be made without crossing that line.

      To all future readers of this thread:

      I ask that you continue to come forth with your experiences with “The Vigilant Citizen” (the website, as well as “like sites”) whether it be on this blog or others who share this type of information. I’ve found 4 separate sites (one goes back nearly 1 yr ago) which encountered the same thing as I did. And even if I was the only reader to experience this– I’d still share that information because I’m looking for SOLUTIONS and “DAMMIT SON!!”… I FOUND ONE which is how this whole thing started! If ya’ll want to spread some shit “to get it right” spread this site: “KICK THEM ALL OUT.COM“. “Occupy” what or abolish it all?… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxXbuTLjsvk
      Love, peace and soul (TRAIN)

      Jazz

      • Well everyone, even me knows that somethings not right or on
        the level with VC. He’s gnostic and us fundamental Christians have a problem with the gnostic doctrines because they are luciferian in nature and Daciple knows this best. I totally vouch for the big man because he and chain saved me. I respect VC on many other levels btw. He shows a lot of tolerance in cases when he should not. I’m just happy I have a place there to spread the gospel of Christ! The real one!

      • “Well everyone, even me knows that somethings not right or on the level with VC.”… that’s all I’m trying to point out. People need to use that tool between their two shoulders. Why would I make up my experience with his site? At this point, with the attention span of the masses– my lil blurb about his effort is like a fart at the beach! Gone in an instant and forgotten especially if the article rolls down to page 37 on this blog. So why would I lie, exaggerate or anything like that? “I’m just happy I have a place there to spread the gospel of Christ! The real one!”… you do indeed! 🙂

        It’s funny, I have just a few sites that I go to “each day” and VC’s was definitely one of them so this wasn’t fun for me. I think this experience should be a lesson to all ‘truth seekers’… monitor consistency and the sharing of information. And since we’re on the subject– are you aware that Alex Jones is a Fraud too? https://yoy50.wordpress.com/2011/08/20/alex-jones-is-a-fraud-its-time-the-truth-be-told-please-spread-this-video/

        Thank you for your comment, Tweeterfeet! I hope you’ll stop by again real soon.

        Peace

  12. I can tell you a story. Back in April 2009 I wrote a post about a strange monument in France called the Temple de la Sagesse Suprême. This was, as far as I can tell, the first English-language article on the Illuminati symbolism of the place, perhaps in French as well, although a video had been made in French. Some months later, an article pops up on VC about the place, illustrated by not one but all of the photos I had taken of the monument and the plaza it sits in. He did say where the pictures came from, but never thanked me. One photo is ok, but all seven? Without even a heads up to show me what he’d done with them? Without asking if I minded?

    The article is interesting, but as I read the comments, I began to become annoyed by all the people saying “great find” VC. I wrote a comment saying that maybe he should step forward and acknowledge that this “great find” was not his discovery and that his writing was an extrapolation on details decribed by people who had actually been there and photographed it. It was not allowed to remain. I wrote another comment, it too was denied. Then I wrote him. No answer.

    He did the same thing with an article originally posted on Terry Melanson’s Conspiracy Archive website about a building in Manitoba. He goes around the internet, builds upon or summarizes other people’s work, then presents it as if he’s discovered it all by his lonesome, without so much as a footnote or reference. This is dishonest and unethical. It’s not plagiarism, but it is derivative and deceptive. He know that Beyoncé and Lady Gaga are highly-searched items, ditto the Illuminati. Put the two together and whammo, lots of hits. Lots of ads. Lots of money. This dude is exploiting the gullible. And one of his biggest ads is to something called the Global Information Network. Look it up and decide for yourself whether or not it’s a scam. VC is laughing all the way to the bank.

    Now I see he’s selling an e-book for ten dollars, including a chapter on the Temple de la sagesse Suprême. is it illustrated with my photos? (If anyone’s seen the book, let me know, yeah?)

    I can’t ay whether he’s a gnostic or a disinfo guy. I suspect he’s just a clever businessman. But he is not honest with his readers or fair to his sources. If he’s used my pictures in his book without compensating me, it’s now illegal too.

    I’ll be up-front, this is about more than the principle; people can quote me and use a pic or two if they’re sharing what they do and giving props, as it were, but if they’re making money on it, hell yes, I want just compensation for the right to make money with my work….which he’s doing with the ads, anyway. And he has been contacted about this. He simply refuses to answer.

    So, if anyone’s got the book, please let me know if there are photographs accompanying the “sinister site” in Blagnac.

    • Well, at the very least, Daurade even in what you describe, the guy is still deceptive.

      There’s no way for you to prove your claims of even your original photos? I’d think there would be some recourse through plagiarism or maybe copyright infringement? Either way it is another example of deception and I’m simply not feeling it. Who knows, maybe he is just a smart businessman who’s cracked some of the codes. I’d say the “beyonce and gaga mix along with symbolism” IS a good way to generate hits. Either way, his practices forced me to removed him from the blogroll and it’s unfortunate that I can’t figure out an “all-in-one-way” to delete all the links to his articles from the past.

      It’s a new day though. Again– people have been warned.

      Jazz

  13. You know, if you have the original photo’s on your camera and can prove he used them without sourcing you, you can sue him for big bucks, because the man is making serious bank on his website and his real identity. There are two of them writing there as you have already read here and “jims” is obviously one of his aliases amongst others, (daciple, datsimple ?!). Jims is throwing around false threats. No one here can be sued for libel because nothing libelous has been said. Nice try Jims. Back to the point, if he has used your pictures without acknowledging you, go and find a lawyer and give him the run down. Preferably one who can recognize Vigilant Citizens alexa rank and chase the google ads to see how many tens of thousands of dollars he’s making per month and especially if it’s in the book. You could stand to make a lot of dough. Deceptive and dishonest journalism like that deserves to be exposed.

    • “No one here can be sued for libel because nothing libelous has been said. Nice try Jims.”… you daaammnn skippin’!

      “… if he has used your pictures without acknowledging you, go and find a lawyer and give him the run down.”… that lawyer will jump on this case in heartbeat!! Especially if he’s making that much “bank” per month.

      “Deceptive and dishonest journalism like that deserves to be exposed.”… Nuff said! 🙂

      Thank you for your comment, The Chief and Commander– it’s definitely appreciated.

      Jazz

  14. Jazz, his original online version does say the photos came from my blog, but I felt it wan’t enough. The whole idea originated with my blog. Plus, a polite request or email of thanks on his part would have been in order.

    What got me pissed was that he deleted my comments and ignored my email, setting of alarm bells and indicating less than honorable practices.

    In any event, if he’s using the photos in a work for sale, he’s crossed the line into illegality, if he hadn’t done that already. Thing is, I’m pretty generous with my stuff, I just don’t like being taken advantage of….

    I can’t say if he’s sincere or merely opportunistic, but his tactics and ads (Global Information Network) lead me to believe the latter. That said, whether he intends to do it or not, I think his site does act as an outlet for disinfo because in so many cases he’s rally strething to include as many celebrities as possible in his posts.

    To be honest, I’m not much for conspiracy theory and most of the visitors here would probably disagree with most of my writings, but I’m up front about my positions and I always link to quotes and indicate when I’m exploring ideas that are not originally my own. Basic etiquette imho.

  15. “his original online version does say the photos came from my blog, but I felt it wan’t enough. The whole idea originated with my blog. Plus, a polite request or email of thanks on his part would have been in order.” I can agree– I’ve seen a few of my pieces exploited in the same manner. Common courtesy goes a long way but of course our society’s mantra has now become; “get mine”.

    “What got me pissed was that he deleted my comments and ignored my email, setting of alarm bells and indicating less than honorable practices.”… with the exception of sending him an email– ditto, man. Ditto. That absolutely pissed me off too.

    “… I’m up front about my positions and I always link to quotes and indicate when I’m exploring ideas that are not originally my own. Basic etiquette imho”… EXACTLY! We’ve become a bunch of ‘scoundrels” and create drama when common courtesy (not respect– people kill me with that overused expression because respect is earned) is very pro-active.

    I’m certainly “monitoring” the follow ups in this discussion of accusations “gone wild:– it’s a good indicator of who’s blowing smoke. A backdoor conversation is not warranted especially since I had to devote more time than I had yesterday redacted birth names. (hmmm.)

    And by the way– Global Info Network– that’s a Soros funded foundation– I know the score. 😉

    I hope you find the victory in this especially if he’s capitalizing off your efforts in anyway. I think I’m going to start copyrighting all of my coined-phrases from here on! 🙂

    Jazz

    • And he dared accuse Tila Tequila of plagiarism or somesuch for talking about ideas similar to what’s on his site. Lots of people know about these ideas. I’m seeing the pattern now. Take other people’s info, and accuse other people of taking your info = claim ownership of all the info.

  16. Chief, Jazz, thanks for the support. If you see the book, cuz I don’t want to have to buy it and find out, let me know if it has pictures. Proof is easy enough as he’s already acknowledged the source of the photos in the online article, reproduced many times over on various forums. He didn’t even re-title the images, which were online months before his article The source was cited, but permission was not asked. For me, this was irksome….it only becomes a potential legal matter if he’s used them in his book. I didn’t realize using them on a site with ads already infringed upon the license though. I’ll look into that. At the point this goes from unethical to illegal, it needs to be addressed as such. So far, my emails asking for a copy of the chapter in the e-book have gone unanswered. Next step I suppose is to contact advertisers and the IP.

    And yeah, there’s no libel here, just facts stated. A lot of negative inferences can be drawn from these facts, especially about the lack of transparency. A thorough investigation of the website might reveal a whole lot more. I seriously doubt this is disinfo for it’s own sake….like I said, I tend to think he’s hit upon some clever ways to make money, any disinfo is just a means to that end. I’m pissed off he’s made me part of both spreading dubious theories and profiting.

    Once a guy named John Salza reproduced an entire article (a few dozen pages worth!) of mine as an addendum to an essay of his; despite the fact I was entirely in disagreement with his conclusions and goals, he used it to support them. Now, citing heavily and reproducing an article in ite entirety are entirely diffeent animals, but when I wrote him, he plead fair use. That’s not correct. But I let it go because he wasn’t chargin money for his work. I shouldn’t have; he was damaging my reputation. I should have at least compelled him to add a disclaimer and a link to the original (but at least he acknowledgd my name).

    I’m not opposed to sharing some of what I do for free, just as I’m not opposed to writing an ebook for money. If you do some hard work and people ae interested, there’s nothing wrong with asking a reasonable price. But the bottom line is, if you sell what doesn’t belong to you, you’re lbreaking the law.

    • Daurade,

      Im not going to buy the book because I am not going to give Vigilant Citizen one penny. It will probably be put on some free online server like megaupload at some point so I’m sure if you keep looking for it, it will show. I don’t know how to get in contact with you so if I do come across it I will let you know here, or if you want link your blog to this one. If that’s not an option, just check this one from time to time and like I said, if I find it I’ll let you know here. Either way, if he did use them in a book then you can sue him and we know by Jims actions that this Daciple character has identified him properly, so he won’t be hard to find. Moreover, if he’s broken copyright in that way, his host will have to provide his identity to your lawyer. You should go after him because he makes a lot of coin and what he did was dishonest and illegal. Keep your chin up. Not every journalist is dishonest, we have an example of one here on this very blog who is all about free speech and ethical journalism.

      Good work you all.

      • Well, whatever qualms I may have about the other aspects of his business, he did in fact respond to my request and does not use my pictures. For this issue then, the case is closed. I should have waited before airing my dirty laundry, but I am satisfied my copyright was not infringed in his e-book.

        I still thank you for your support and you offer to help me. And I’m glad to say it won’t be necessary. Apologies all round if I’ve wasted anyone’s time. Even if I do stand by the other things I wrote here, at least on this, my worries were proven unfounded.

  17. These are four links to some of my posts on the Blagnac pyramid. The first of these links is light-hearted, the second light-weight, but 3 and 4 get into my idiosyncratic take on the pyramid quite thoroughly. As I mentioned above, you may find that some of my conclusions run counter to the general trend of this blog, I’m quite the skeptic….I’m more into folklore than anything else and the blog of late has been pretty slim–too much time at my job to blog properly–but if you poke around you may find something you like. Anyway, yeah I’m glad to put that other stuff behind me.

    http://lawsofsilence.blogspot.com/2009/04/can-evil-tree-produce-good-fruit.html
    http://lawsofsilence.blogspot.com/2009/05/back-in-april-los-shed-bit-of-ligh-t-on.html
    http://lawsofsilence.blogspot.com/2009/08/pyramid-power.html
    http://lawsofsilence.blogspot.com/2009/09/further-adventures-in-crypto-analytical.html

  18. This will be my last post here:

    Im here simply to let all of you know that Duhsimple Vig One, the Fake Me, Tweeterfist, Chain, Jim, and more than likely Chief are all the same person, a poster who is infamous on VC who went by Toby Jones.

    Here is a link to VC, where I Daciple the Real One, who has over 400 posts so I can not be impersonated am speaking on a thread on that site where someone saw this blog and Tobys BS actions. I state the facts that I posted the first post under my name and the second one that has The Real One by it, all other posts are by the same person or crew if he has friends.

    You would be wise to take anything he says with a huge grain of salt for he is a liar and an impostor as is clear by his actions on here to discredit Me VC Chain Tweeterfist Henrik and all the other people he mentioned because for some wack reason he hates all of us…

    To each their own tho, believe what you wish, Be Well and God Bless, especially you Toby, you are forever in my prayers buddy!!!

    http://vigilantcitizen.com/vcboards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7596 (2nd Page 4th Post down is mine)

    • ^^ Nice try VC.

      You see folks, this is how disinformation specialists like those at the VC work. They try to discredit their own exposure by pretending to be their own critics. The daciple above is most assuredly false and one of the VC puppets. Disinformation seeks to create as much noise as possible, so the truth is drowned out. I hope those with eyes to see and ears to hear can see who the real imposters are, such as the fake Daciple above, Jims and some of the others who are obviously VC and his crew, including Toby Jones and Dantalion Jones.

      • Believe me, Chainmaker– I actually began to assess the situation and realized that I might be talking to the infamous VC at some point. Which handle he used? Who gives a shit. What concerned me most (still does) is who and what he sold out to. When people understand the scope of his (and others like him) participation in this, it should make the awakened person’s jaws tight! 🙂

        Hell– he could be under MK Ultra for all we know but if he isn’t… he’s a traitor to the cause.

        Jazz

    • So let me get this straight. You’ve called out Vigilant Citizen on his own website as a Gnostic occultists but are here defending him now and making threads on his own website that he himself is responding to and agreeing with.

      Scuze me for pointing out how fishy that smells.
      Looks like controlled opposition to me.

  19. 😄 Holy shit, what a gong show. This is the real Tweeterfist here to help clear some things up, as this was just brought to my attention.

    Yes, I’m a moderator on VC. No, I do not promote ecumenism among religions. What I try to promote is a message board where people can civilly speak their minds. My posts on the board will show that I’m a staunch opponent to the doctrines of Islam.

    The above is the real Daciple and he speaks the truth. This is most likely the work of one known as Toby who has fun impersonating people and causing general mayhem. He is one of the biggest reasons the VC boards experienced a ”civil war.”

    I’m flattered to be chosen as someone to be impersonated and included in your little games, Toby. You’re a sad character and I pray you find better ways to spend your time. Next time try to do a better job impersonating me as well… you didn’t even get my name or style of typing right. Peace.

    • Tweeterfist “Ooh you got me good all over, def put some effort into that one. Sad I won’t make that par with my response, because your whole argument here is a balloon of hot air.”

      Effort into what Logan? What?

      I just googled Tweeterfist and learned a lot about you, like that you consider yourself a CONSPIRACY ANALYST

      That your facebook page has racist pictures,


      promotes drugs,



      Problem is that maybe your reasoning has holes in it because your brain has holes in it from all the drugs you’ve done. Maybe that’s why you’re so easily led by others and take on all that false praise and are such a lap dog?

      porn and other degenerate things like making fun of handicapped individuals?

      That your youtube page promotes satanic music?

      But you’re a good kid right? Just a little misled. You can do all that bad stuff because you’re saved by the blood of Christ which allows you to do all that negative stuff while preaching to others.

      You created a site? LOL, but are a moderator on Vigilant Citizen. Sure, what else have you got to tell us?

      Tweeterfist “3) One, I don’t know him, but that doesn’t mean I won’t call out bogus disinformation slandering and faulty logic when I see”

      You just don’t get it do you, you idiot? You’re slandering people all over the place on a whim, even on here. It’s clear as day for anyone else watching. You’re doing this without a shred of evidence, but you come here protecting Vigilant Citizen when dozens of people have reason to believe he has no good motives. You even say yourself you don’t trust his motives, but are partying at his site because you’re a bid bad and and important moderator? I’m sure you feel a big responsibility there. I mean, it’s not like you actually need to go out and make a real impact in the real world. Just keep talking to the same dozen or so personalities on that site and pretend you’re an important Christian savior, right?

      Tweeterfist “4) Yeah, I like dubstep and heavy European rave and underground rap and all assortment of filthy music that your cliche Christian wouldn’t like. Your point?”

      Do you forget these things that your Bible commands you to do

      – you shall not swear
      – you shall not bear false witness
      – you shall not speak evil
      – you shall bear no grudge
      – you shall not fornicate
      – you shall no take part in drunkeness

      You swear. You bear false witness. You bear grudges. You fornicate. You take part in recreational drugs and drunkeness. Yet you preach to others to save them?

      How funny is that?

      My point?

      1 Corinthians 6:9-10 warns us, “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

      That you are a fake and false Christian.

      But then here is your idea of Christianity:

      You’re warned to not take part in abominable things, but you do. You do drugs. You have sex out of wedlock per your own admission. You listen to Satanic music. Yet you parade around as a righteous Christian boy. You are a hypocrite. Everyone can see it.

      Tweeterfist “Forgot about that gallery”

      Yea, I’m sure you’d like nothing more than for people to forget about it since you’ve run off and deleted all those pictures now that you’ve been unraveled for everyone to see what a lying despicable hypocrite you are.

      But I saved them, just for you 🙂

      Am I Toby too now? I was banned for being a Toby because I didn’t share your view of the gospels. You and your crew made some pretty snarky and negative remarks about me, and I wasn’t even that character.

      which makes me laugh when you say this “You have shown that you will bend evidence to fit the means of truth you wish.”

      I bend evidence? You don’t even have any when you make your accusations you lying twit!

      You sure love evidence {shakes my head}

      • Hi there, Not Your Ordinary Citizen! And welcome!

        I want to bring to your attention the new rules for comments (tab at the top). You broke one. I’m letting this slide because you’re a first time commenter but if you ever want to get “The Captain of THIS ship” riled up… the n-word doesn’t it to me every time. I do get the point but really– that’s a word that is simply off limits here. I’ve gotta’ be consistent with that because I recently had to post some friggin rules! 🙂

        I realize you didn’t say it (type it), it’s linked to the site of the person you’re addressing but it’s used in your comment so I gotta’ put you over my knee for a minute. 🙂

        Jazz

  20. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Okay, i’m done. You guys are fucking nuts. It’s just a site, actually we rarely talk on VC’s Articles but sure were all his puppets and such.. Reaching article is reaching.
    Also, if you guys think Hartwell is VC, i’ve webcammed with him before ❤ 😀

  21. Take VC with a pinch of salt as it’s just a website that doesn’t affect our lives in any shape or form. Hence we just read their articles, which are mainly copied from the daily press, make some not so substantial comments and so on.

  22. I am not a member of the old boards. I was or am not banned (at present). I have no axe to grind.

    I am here to attest that through personal experiences, and with the help of this blog post (which was quoted in a thread in order to smear or expose the one they call Toby and his “shills”) that the Vigilant Citizen forums are a controlled environment and something sinister is indeed up.

    When I joined, I heard stories of the “drama” that went down causing the “old boards” to be cleaned. I originally thought it was odd that in my short search of truth searching, I had never heard tale of a conspiracy forum as popular as VC being shut down due to member drama (insubordination).

    Not too long after becoming a regular poster, in one instance I tried to link as a source and put a picture up from a very good conspiracy databank. It has no “author” and has extensive well documented posts on topics that are frequently thrown around. I tried to post it several times and it kept going back to the website. This happens, usually, if you post “bad” or sexually explicit words. I then went through the post and checked everything and noted than only once removing the site name could I post the thread.

    I thought it was odd. The email sent asking about censorship was only responded to by vigilant stating “don’t accuse” them – an explanation was never giving as to why it wouldn’t post.

    Obviously, this is just as someone suggested. That this site wants to , for whatever reason, be seen as the only source of info to the people on the site.

    And before posting here you can do a google search to see several questionable practices of the “filter”.

    Later on the site inexplicably went down. Once it was reinstated, I posted a thread asking what could possibly have happened as Vigilant himself had tweeted that he had “no idea”. Within seconds, a poster known for distraction and being the non threatening (albeit annoying) village troll posted in a very confident and uncharacteristic manner that it was a “server down”.

    I then thought maybe he, the troll, was vigilant. Though I do not know, it leads me to believe that the perhaps some of the aforementioned real identities of prevalent posters are true. Recently , I inquired again as through my research I have come to know that several non-shill conspiracy sites are hacked. Another , again aforementioned real identity, came in to plainly state that “the server was down”.

    This was again uncharacteristic of the poster, and both seemed as though they were reading (or posting) from a script.

    In regards to two other aforementioned posters. One, through my examination of writing style, I immediately identified as an artist who is known in the occult. Though doing no harm , but seemingly there to “play” with us as a normal poster – I (and other posters) noticed him and another gentlemen (also mentioned in the “real identities post) knew each other. Way later on they both referenced Kabalistic text and stories (which truthers can examine as based in satanic mysticism) . As much as I enjoyed both of the posters, and to some extent have given them my loyalties, I immediately thought something was up.

    Add that to observation that a detailed well researched posts on the mysteries can have 100 views but it is not until posters gain traction on deciphering the material that 6 or 7 “non believers” or supposed “trolls” will come in to distract and hijack the conversation.

    Again, I have no ulterior motives other than to inform the public that : Yes I invested a significant amount of time there, there is a lot of good info and people there, but the questions surrounding the site are incredibly disturbing. And as I feel as a assailant (by posting) I would like to allow anyone with eyes to see – to see.

    All the evidence supports that it is indeed a controlled environment.

    As there is a lot that can be learned from anywhere, read to your heart’s content: but always verify and if you decide to become a member – be careful!

  23. This shits just crazy. GOD this Truth Seeling Movement is driving me NUTS. I dont trust no one at this point (paranoid meme) I used to post in mundodesconocido, a good page in my language spanish, and already by that tieme there were people talking there that smelled putrid, and making fake accounts and shit. Also you always wonder who is paying the site, or why he is really exposing all that. All this lead us to the conclussion that in the conspiracy world there are a lot of crazy nuts paranoid people and a great percent of the sites belong to Them. Also, the Bible is manipulated. I need further research. For some time what I would do is get away from this part of the Internet.

    PD: oh and while I was a “fan” of vigilant citizen I become really stressed and frightened, like fucking obsessed with the devil and stuff. I firmly believes there is something freaking odd about him and that page.

    • Hi sKeptiKos! This movement crap can drive you nuts, can’t it? I’m still fascinated by the many who use several handles but is really just one person. What a miserable life they must have. “I was a “fan” of vigilant citizen I become really stressed and frightened, like fucking obsessed with the devil and stuff. I firmly believes there is something freaking odd about him and that page.”… you see? People underestimate this esoteric shit! There was another reader who wrote in to describe something similar (not vc related). What’s a trip to me is that even the Devil believes in God yet we still have trouble accepting things of a supernatural level.

      And of course the Bible has been manipulated– they couldn’t get us so far off track without that! 😉 Don’t let it get you down, man. Knowledge is power, you know?

  24. Hi again
    I researched a bit and fucckkkkkkkkkk mundodesconocido is smelling fishier now!
    http://mundodesconocido.com/WordPress/
    Red and black background,masonic medallion, and white colour in the letters.
    Furthermore hes comunist http://defensatum.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/agente-doble-jose-luis-camacho-espina-mundodesconocido-com-comunista-illuminati/
    I am showing this to you in order that you can realize how most of the popular pages about the Illuminati are ran by the Illuminati LOL
    By now, you can only rely in some blogs, precisely because they are less important

    Oh and I forgot to say, I posted some thoughts about the way the site was affecting me in VC and a link to a illuminati forum exposing the page and they erased my comments in minutes. The World Wide Web have some spiders on it, dot be the fly pals.

    • The sites that gains swiftly in popularity is probably part of it. I mean– people should automatically realize that there will be some controlled sites. It’s the same with protests. That’s just good basic psychology! Where’s the translate button for the site? I’d like to take a look but I don’t speak Spanish (other than to order some mexican food lol)

      And the World Wide Web– hey… it’s definitely called a web for a reason! 😉

  25. This is absurd, every thread you guys post here has this Toby characters name in it, yet like Montag pointed out on Chaukdeedar’s word press page he’s nowhere to be seen in the member list.

    I was banned a few months ago for no real reason that I could discern after posting a few threads about my views of Christianity. First a troll appeared and started taking all of it out of context and baited me into a flame war which I tried to diffuse. Then Tweeterfist and his gang started accusing me of Gnosticism, which seems to be their only tact to silence anyone who dares pose an alternative view.

    I was later banned with the reason “you aren’t fooling anyone”, and later in the same thread Tweeterfist, Daciple and one known as Chainmaker all alluded to me being this “Toby” character?!?

    I don’t even know who “Toby” is but I was accused of being him. It’s almost as if they’ve created this persona, maybe even just to be used as a boogey man to get rid of anyone who is trying to shed some light on what is happening around us. Because I was banned and accused of being this person, and what is currently happening here and on the yoy50 site, I’m starting to believe what users like JJ Virgil and Justin Time and the original Daciple amongst others are saying is true.

    Tweeterfist keeps accusing all these Jones people of being Toby because they claim to be the group that invented him, and then this fascist pretend Christian moderator Tweeterfist has the audacity to talk about evidence?

    You just believe them because of what evidence actually? Just because they said it? HAHA, great evidence!! They could easily be toying with you, or working with you and VC for all anyone know’s.

    Anyone who seems to present a different message from what you believe to be true on the VC website is accused of being this infamous Toby by you and your crew. How is that? What evidence do you have? What evidence do we have that this character ever existed? He’s likely just a boogey man of your own making.

    Tweeterfist, please give your head a shake. You call Chauk our for having flimsy evidence on Vigilant Citizen but are about to take the words of some blog comments who claim to be this invisible Toby guy that caused all this trouble on the Vigilant Citizen’s website?

    Either you’re a shill for Vigilant Citizen and this is just a big smoke screen, or you’re stupid.

    Why?

    Because for one you say there is no evidence to prove that Vigilant isn’t spreading disinformation, when dozens upon dozens of websites are saying he does and give very reasonable accounts of him doing so and suppressing information.

    Then say you have doubts about him, don’t know him but you’re a moderator of his website.

    Do you see the problems with those statements? One, if you don’t know him then you can’t really defend him. Second, if you have doubts about him then you can’t really defend him. Third, you’re a moderator of his site so you obviously have some contact with him. Lastly if you openly admit that you doubt him, but you are defending him you’re as dumb as dumb can be.

    What’s even funnier is that after some dude, probably the same one at yoy50′s site and here identified him, you and this real daciple guy show up to blame some anonymous Toby character that no one knows even exists? hahahahahahahah!!!!!

    Then the only thing that we can all be assured of is that you have some hell bent need to claim anyone who doesn’t agree with you is Toby. Both you and one of the Daciples, real or not, do the same thing, so there is at least enough reason to believe you’re all in cahoots, correct?

    So, you have no evidence on any of those counts but it doesn’t stop you from making those claims, which makes you look like a fool for questioning Chauk on what you call

    “More flimsy reasoning from a soft conspiracy-muddled mind.”

    LOLWUT?! You’re calling him a soft conspiracy-muddled mind, when you go around calling yourself a Conspiracy Analyst?

    Are you hoping to get hired by Merrill Lynch’s conspiracy division as their top analyst? lol

    This is especially funny since you like to throw around the word evidence like a sword.

    In the post at the alient scientist forum (for some reason I can’t hyperlink urls in this site)Tweeterfist announces that the world is only 10,000 years old and that carbon dating has “holes in it”? LOLOLOLOL!!!

    Best part about that is that it is made in a forum called Alien Scientists, because you know they’re certainly better than the fake Science we have now, hahahahaha.

    You seem flimsy in your own reasoning in your own right, but I guess someone who has done as much drugs as your facebook wall and pictures seem to suggest would probably act that way.

    And before you call me Toby again, or anyone else, all I know about you was ascertained by a simple google search on Tweeterfist.

    Shake your head…really hard…and wake up!

    Whoever it is is playing games with you, or you’re one of the people playing games.

    Oh, you also say and claim to be a Christian. When someone google’s your Tweeterfist name they find your youtube page. As I looked through your favorite list and WOW man you have some sick and perverted tastes in music. No wonder you come across so messed up.

    If that wasn’t bad enough, anyone looking through your facebook profile (linked in my name) and the album called

    shit I feel an album for

    will find all kinds of really disgusting and questionable tastes in humor from you making fun of mentally handicapped people, to making overt racist remarks, to promoting a very negative view of Christianity, to pornography and homosexual overtones as well as making some very questionable comments on serious illness as if it is funny that some people suffer from diseases such as Aids.

    I’m sure you’ll take all that down now that the cat is out of the bag, but at least I’ve seen it for my own eyes and know you for the fake, disinformation fool and shill that you are yourself.

    Here’s a really wise saying that you should think hard about

    Silence is foolish if we are wise, but wise if we are foolish. –Charles Caleb Colton

    You should just shut up while you’re ahead because anyone going through those links will figure out what sort of Christian you are, and that you have no business trying to preach to anyone else you massive joke!

    The mistakes of the fool are known to the world, but not to himself. The mistakes of the wise man are known to himself, but not to the world.
    –Charles Caleb Colton

    The last question I leave you with is, do you know the mistake you are making by supporting that man, or men, or are you ignorant of it?

  26. Agreed.
    He banned me for no reason, none. He banned many others for no reason. Hexa is a witch who astral projects yet he gets to be mod

  27. shit has hit the proverbial fan over here:

    http://chaukeedaar.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/short-warning-vigilant-citizen-is-a-illuminati-disinfo-agent/#comment-854

    Tweeterfist is quick adjusting his facebook page after I discovered a folder with satanic images, racist pictures, pornography and promoting drugs. Damage control in full effect boys and girl.

    300+ comments. Vig’s shills have been hard doing damage control after his identity was leaked.

    • I know! hahaha! I had to clear my inbox because I left a comment! hahahaha

      Don’t they get it? The more they chatter the more they expose themselves? Sheesh! 🙂

    • Well, hi there, Mitch Joel

      Hey! At this point I don’t know if you are “real/organic/originator/official” or wtf ever but welcome to the party, man. By the way– I don’t get down with any “social media” so I know I won’t be traveling down those fiber optic mini-rabbit holes to view this. But to the readers… GRAB AT IT!

      Love, peace and soul (TRAIN)!

      Jazz (no mistake about it! ;))

  28. Wow. This comment stream is…well, WOW. I haven’t read all of the comments yet, but wanted to stop and write this, because I don’t want to lose the thought.
    I made it to the point where you mentioned Aaron Russo….and, well….I had to say something…because. I know him. Knew him. Spent many, many hours and days with him. Not in an intimate way. We were friends. He is the real deal.
    Now, I will read the rest of this stream.
    Thanks.

    Vee.

    • So the stream is legit?! Wow! Cool friggin’ beans!!!!! I never met Russo but the film itself (Trading Places)– WASN’T THAT REVEALING ON SO MANY LEVELS OR WHAT??!!! Thank goodness Russo’s efforts didn’t die in vain!!!!!

      Hey– I dig you’re explaining for the ones who’d travel down “smut lane” but really– I KNOW men and women can actually be friends and nothing else! For the record– I thought he was crazy adorable and appealing. He’s Italian and I like them more than they seem to like my black ass! Been to Rome– trust me, they HATE US!!!!

      Just when I thought I was shutting it down for the evening, I think I’ve gotta get this next post ready to rock and roll cuz it’s a doozy. By the way, how is doozy actually spelled? lol brain-farts run amuck tonite!!! lol

      Jazz

    • Hi there Vee! It was tough but I finally got a few winks! 🙂

      “explain things to people as if they are four years old”… hahaha! Hey! I’ve met some four year olds who were brighter than someone in their 60’s! LOL People ask me what I missed the most while I was gone… kids and puppies (and now cats since we got one recently). Fail proof for stress free!

      “DILIGENT Citizens out there. (couldn’t resist)” tee-hee! Good one!

      Jazz

      (thanks for the doozy– vaccines have fucked up my ability to spell)! lol

  29. Hi yoy50,

    I’m a former VC user who had to leave due to frustrations with the site.

    Let me give you a little explanation as to why I left the place:

    There was really no point in trying to get those MTV-teenagers, who make up a good majority of the users on VC’s message boards, to wake up and realize that YES, there is indeed a shadow government that happens to control and carefully orchestrate EVERYTHING. Including the celebrities that these kids happen to love so dearly.

    I swear a good 90% of the users on that site at the current moment don’t even believe that the elite/shadow government even exist, nor do they even care to know about it. No matter how much information I have gathered and posted on that site, they still didn’t get it and decided to attack me instead.

    You wouldn’t believe the number of times I was attacked by these kids just for trying to point out the truth to them. These programmed sheeple just LOVE to defend the celebrities and would deny everything I tried to tell them. In my opinion, these kids need to quit living in fairyland (or shall I say “Hollywoodland”) and GROW UP!

    I served as a link directory on that site for a reason. My main goal was to get these kids to WAKE UP, STOP obsessing over celebrities, and get on out there and LOOK for the information themselves.

    There are a TON of websites scattered all throughout the web that specialize in the subject on the elite/illuminati/shadow government that I’m sure those kids could have learned a good deal from. However, they just ignored it and went back to their usual celebrity worship.

    To sum it up in a simple sentence, those kids didn’t want know anything and they just didn’t CARE to learn.

    I figured I just had to stop sometime soon because there really was no point in trying to convince these celebrity-worshiping teens otherwise. I was just wasting my time with them.

    ではまた。

    • Hi there, Ayaka! My apologies for the delay in response. I’m a bit peeved by S.1867!!!!

      I truly appreciate your comment. Makes TOTAL sense to me. What I didn’t realize is that was a site that largely had “MTV’ers”. I thought I was dealing with a “not quite 30” crowd! I rarely looked at the comments other than the MTV Awards Analysis but when Winehouse died, that’s when I began to look at the comments a bit more. I can’t say I actually noticed anything because this discovery was based on the deleting of my comments. After the experience I had there, most all ‘truthers’ are suspect. With the current developments, it’s very disappointing to see that VC is just a drop in a bucket, too! The matrix is massive. He’s a bug on a rug.

      As far as idolizing celebs as the young ‘uns do, I simply have decided to send my prayer for their awakening. A removal of calcium from the Pineal gland, if you will. 😉

      Welcome to Oz and this crazy ass party, lady! 😉

      Jazz

      • Thank you for the reply.

        After I stumbled across this blog, I decided to take a look around and read some of your post. So far, I have to admit that I love it.

        Keep up the good work!

  30. Hello. I posted this on another blog but I thought It’d be interesting to have your readers read it here as well. Please let me know what you think yoy50, much appreciation:

    LMAO How hilarious that I stumbled upon this blog! Why you might ask? Because what was mentioned is VERY true. I too, got very suspicious of VC when I as well, noticed he was pushing one solid agenda: mind control and the occult.

    I read somewhere else, not on his site obviously, that sometimes the government deploys double agents, people who pretend to be on our side only to really be working for the party they claim they are against/ out to expose in order to create disinformation. Something VC covers, but doesn’t acknowledge the double agent part fully. Why?

    The lack of versatility or opened-mindedness in his views/ articles rang an alarm in my head. His readers/ followers are no better than the “sheeple” they claim they are soooo much more awake than. So, I tried to ask him about it; comment blocked.

    I straight out called bs and told his readers he kept deleting my comments on mention of the word “double-agent.” Comment blocked. Again I tried, comment blocked.

    Mind you these comments (others of people who didn’t agree with his views as well) were being deleted at a rapid pace days after an article release or on that same day. WHO HAS THE TIME TO SIT THERE AND DO THAT?

    I sure as hell couldn’t. Which brings the question of “does he run this site himself, or is there more than one person running this site?” And if it just himself and is his job in a sense, doesn’t that mean he’s making BANK off of this? (You cant sustain yourself, internet, a comment board, multiple sites,etc off of air buddy!) Doesn’t that mean he’s pushing something that a company pays him for?

    BTW I find his fascination with Gaga very disturbing considering if you truly wanted to stop her or artists like her, agendas, you mention them once in a detailed article. That would give people the tools to avoid media/ artists that pushed those agendas. Instead he focuses on them so devoutly, so constantly I wonder if he too is just following the now, the trendy. And by doing so, indirectly or directly is building propaganda for Gaga and anything with those agendas. Think about it, the more you mention something, the more of a fascination is built and the more people need to fixate on it.

    I left one final last comment on his post for “Marry The Night” and he can’t dare say it was off topic. I mentioned the video analysis itself, another users comment (which was blocked, shocking) and yet it was still blocked.

    Judge me if you’d like, but at least I’m honest:

    “I swore I’d never comment again after VC kept deleting my comments in regards to him perhaps being some kind of double agent (which he hardly ever covers…weird no?) but I didn’t swear off of coming to this site.

    Quite frankly I find his analysis/take on media/culture fascinating, but this article is it for me! Not that he, or anyone of his followers will care, but I won’t be coming back because besides censoring a lot of our comments (such as your own) he now is propagating one solid theme/ way of thinking to the masses, just like the people he seeks to “enlighten” you about.

    Yet on this very site he tells you to think for yourself, to basically investigate things and not just solely rely on his opinion, but if you do so, he singles you out or censors you— contradictory much?

    I get that VC is trying to stick to the theme of his site, the occult and its symbolism, but to just label something as that and claim it’s nothing else is BS!

    Did anyone ever care to think perhaps, as Nikki mentioned, Gaga was rapped (regardless of whether it was by the industry or not) or that perhaps she associates the mental institution with the level of mental instability she experienced after being dropped that same day? Maybe that’s one of the places she went to in her own mind.? Or perhaps she remade herself willing in order to succeed? Not simply because the industry enforced it on her. (Hell if everyone one person I knew had the occult as a backing reason as to why they changed, they’d all be in the Illuminati! ) Or that the ballet scenes were symbolic of how impossible it was for her to be a dancer/entertainer (notice the stilts she has on!) and that after she reinvented herself she worked her ass off to become the best she knew she could be? ( In other words, giving up on a fairytale fantasy of being a graceful dancer, to just becoming one with hard work) Or what about the final scene, in wish she is, in my opinion, a phoenix rising out of her own ashes? (demise/ failures)These are just simple differences, the bounds in which to interpret this artistic video (because it is art whether you’d like to admit or not) or videos of the like, are endless.

    I stopped believing in VC all together after I stumbled onto sites such as this one: http://gagajournal.blogspot.com/2011/03/agents-of-pop-of-what-is-past-or.html

    In which it expanded on videos meanings more than what was given at face value, or our perceived interpretations, or even VC’s focus on just the occult.

    I began to realize life is much more complex than just “good” or “bad,” “god” or the “devil,” “naturalism” from “occultism,” “us” from the “elite,” and that perhaps none of us know it all fully.

    If you start to believe everything VC tells you, you’re no better than the “sheeple” you people bash all the time. Brainwashing goes both ways, always remember that!

    As to you VC, I thank you. If what you say is true, after much thought and plight suffered, I think I know what to do next with my life. If you can’t beat them (which we can’t… if “they” even exist) then join them. And now I sort of know how to go about it.

    At the end of the end of the day, it’s not about what people reveal to/ enlightens you. It’s not about one point of view or censorship if you don’t stick to that view. Nor is it about if the information people such as VC presents to you, librates you or entraps you; it’s about what you do with the aforementioned.

    Call me crazy, call me stupid, call me whatever the hell you want, but I’ve taken all that I can from this site, and it’s time I expanded my points of views/ ways of thinking. If you’re so inclined to be appalled by this, then you all are hypocrites for not following the truer words that VC has offered; to be vigilant and to think for yourself.

    Good luck to you all! I’m off this site for good. “

  31. Here’s a screen shot taken by one of Vigilant Citizen’s old moderators known as Russian Nika or now going by the name of Katayzyna on the current VC forums of VC himself banning a whole bunch of members because they joined a different forum

    Does that not screen insanity?

    • Hi there, Tony the Tank! (cute screen name)

      So you mean to tell me there are notations made when they ban someone? What in the world? Okay– I’m glad I found out about that site when I did. What a waste of time that was. Drama and stupidity. I’m highly allergic to both! 🙂

  32. When you ban someone it gives you the option to put a reason down. “Rat”, “Two-Timing Coward”, “Maggot”, “Coward”, “Traitor” were the ones VC put down for the people he banned who joined another forum.

    That would be like you banning or removing comments from the blog that appear on Chaukeedaar’s blog just because you are upset that people are posting in two places.

    Pretty bizarre and possessive behavior if you ask me from Vigilant himself.

    • “Pretty bizarre and possessive behavior if you ask me from Vigilant himself.”… You know what? Sounds like a willing shill or a programmed soul if you ask me. 😉 Dude’s got issues and I’m glad I no longer “pop by his spot”.

      Forums are fairly new to me so is this blogging thing so I try to keep my shit simple. Rules have now been posted (which fucked me up to actually have to do thanks to VC’s ass) and I simply want to stay on my earnest mission. Going back over the many comments this post has eventually gained– I can see that I was duped by an agent– no doubt. 80% truth and the other 20… well… you know. It’s part of that Masters Chess game. 😉

      In my personal world? Dysfunction does not exist but to each their muthafvkn’ own! lol!!!

      Catcha soon Tony the Tank!

      Jazz

      P.S. POOR Chaukeedaar! He’s been far more inundated by our (among others) exposure of VC than I have… THANK GOD!!! Big :)’s Dude can’t even get a new posting out! hahaha

  33. Hi there, I just wanted to share my experience with this VC fraud. I was in a conflict with this site for a long now as it was deleting my comments daily. And it started with two pics I wanted to share with people and hear their oppinions…I guess, exposing these celebs is not the part of the VC’s agenda
    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=34rzj0k&s=5
    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rqls91&s=5

    Both are known faces, especially among the young audience, and IT IS frightening when a fortheen year kid says it would be great to read that satanic bible as some L.A. model does, or to sing about the devil inside or go euphoric because of the nude bare fetish demonstrated in the clip.
    Please, do not delete this comment…jI’m loosing hope in humanity:(

    • Hi there, aldise! Do NOT give up hope! I continue this blog in part for anyone who felt like I first did upon this crazy discovery of DECEPTION. No need for it as there is truly a HIGHER power in the midst of this! The pics you posted with VC’s site are quite interesting. LeVay is truly old news for those who DON’T know and that subtly in the background on of second pic– ‘praising’ “the GOAT”?! WOW– JUST WOW!!!! Start a blog/website and spread your unfolding knowledge of this massive betrayal. It only takes the effort of 1 nearest I can tell. 😉

      And I’d never delete a comment by the way… simply NOT MY STYLE! It’s ashame you felt the need to include that request but it does prove (yet again) that FRAUDS DO EXIST!!! (YO’ VC– YOU SCARED ASSHOLE WHO SOLD SO MANY OUT!)

      Hook a sister up with some direct links to begin the research… you say these are fourteen year olds? WOW! Seems like a post that is waiting to be discovered for Why O’ Why!

      Jazz

      P.S. A song to lift you up– hope you enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4h_ItABOWc

  34. You all be jelly of the Vigilant Citizen because he be roll’n in the dough and you all be collecting welfare doing these free blogs

    hater’s gona hate!

    • Hi Sarge and welcome to the party!

      So… since you’ve not responded to any commenter in particular I figured I’d chime in here. And the only reason for that? “hater’s gona hate!”. Um… really, man (assuming by your screen name)?

      You see– incorporating the word ‘hate’ in any form as it’s applied to the subject at hand plays right into “their” very design. While you may have found this site through whatever means, (tags, links, etc.) there’s a whole other subject that takes us down the rabbit hole much deeper than ever imagined. VC “getting dough” is ABSOLUTELY irrelevant now as he, like many others (Alex Jones, David Icke and so on, my man) are all but a fart at the beach. Stinks to discover but the wide open space helps rid the funk. In short… we shouldn’t focus on their fabricated (80/20) ‘truths’ (myths). Get to know what WellAware1 is unfolding (just for starters cuz it’s a whopper). VC is like a turd gone down the toilet. There are far more important things to comprehend and become aware of as VC, like so many others. have been exposed far more often than we’ve known. “Getting paid” should not interfere with ones morals so recognize the entry for what it is– the truth. 😉

      Peace and understanding,
      Jazz

      p.s. can’t remember where I heard this (certainly not my coined phrase) but; “all money ain’t good money”.

  35. Hey guys,
    Interesting discussion here,want to put my two cents in (aussie lingo).

    Starting to put things together as a fairly new internet user (1 year).
    One of those things are taking heed of my “feelings” about
    any internet site seeming to be a good indicator of what intent is behind it.

    Just came across Vigilant Citizen website and was fascinated for a short while but
    after viewing just felt sick and drained of energy.

    Same thing happened when I came across all those stories and pictures of
    our reptillian/satanistic alien overlords.Hey,it’s possible…

    Plus reading about that Monarch Mind Programming sickens my spirit.I don’t really
    need to focus on the horrible things we can do to each other.

    So engrossing but ultimately they take you nowhere. Your right, where are the solutions?
    Peaceful,loving,inclusive ones.

    Gotta keep it real and keep the love flowing however you need to dress it up.

    Cheers from annoyingly optimistic Australian Saggitarian 39yr old mum/spirit encased in form of…

    • Hi there, Chris from The Land Down Under! By the way– I don’t think you’re an “annoying spirit”. I’d say you’re one of the rare critical thinkers! 🙂

      I’m with you on VC’s site after a short while. Eventually, I became only interested in his pictorials on the many examples of the “eye of horus” in all genres of media (sports, movies, fashion, etc.) I agree– I instinctively move away from sites that “bog me down” because I know the value of how we place our energies. And when you know about a cat named John Todd and how “they cast spells”… I tend to take that very seriously. And when we think about it– hasn’t most of society gravitated to what we see on the idiot box (print and otherwise)? We shouldn’t ever forget when Michael Jordan created his sneakers people were (still are) willing to kill for. And we still think this is not by design or subliminal messaging at its’ best? Tsk, tsk.

      And the Monarch Programming has affected me in a way I didn’t quite expect as I’m very disturbed by the many victims of it. When I found out how far back it goes– it’s STUNNING! It’s astonishing to me that most of society continues to ignore this even though it was admitted by our gooberment (Gov.). “Sicknens my spririt” too.

      “So engrossing but ultimately they take you nowhere. You’re right! Where are the solutions?” That should be our indicator always! When there aren’t any solutions offered by a site who discusses these matters that should do it for anyone. Definitely “keep it real” cuz that’s LOVE, lady! 🙂

      Cheers to you too and welcome again from the place that has some of the most venomous snakes in the world! Kept me from visiting when I was invited. hahaha. And you have to finish that sentence; “encased in the form of”… hahahaha

      Jazz

      (sorry for the delay– major internet problems) 😦

      • Hi Jazz,
        Thanks for the reply.makes me happy to connect with other like minded/hearted individuals 🙂

        Just been looking at some of your other posts and I do want to know more because it has
        stirred deep feelings of outrage against these “humans” controlling us.

        Keep exposing the layers of deceit and manipulation my friend and I will spread the word.

        Feel like they are throwing all of their arsenal at us at the moment..fluoride in the water,chemicals in the food,chemtrails polluting the air, haarp mucking around with our electromagnetic fields ,fukushima radiating the air and ocean,rampant moral degradation in the MSM etc I could go on for days unfortunately!

        But that also means that the time is ripe to “give it a red hot go”, and what’s that new groups motto…….. “kick them all out now!” I love it! I would also add “because they are all corrupt and have to go!”.

        Full moon on the 7th-enjoy everyone!

        Chris

      • Hi Chris! Sorry for the delay still having internet problems….

        Always great to connect with like minded/hearted people! I’m glad to hear the other posts are helping you see that we have indeed been controlled. And they have been throwing an arsenal at us as of late. It shows their desperation if you ask me because they are actually getting sloppy with some of their works. Oh– it’s not just a motto (kick them all out) it’s an actual movement that I hope people will catch on too. Their link is under the blogroll too so do spread the word. I still can’t believe this current “presidential campaign of clowns”. What an embarrassing joke that is. Not one person is a legitimate choice. And people kill me when they say one thing has nothing to do with the other… cheating on your spouse, the one you love, is the very person you don’t want to run a country. If he or she can lie to their loved one why wouldn’t they lie while in office? Geez! Omission is always a factor. But in this country (CORPORATION)– we haven’t had a president for a long time. Our system is a complete farce! Shame on us all for believing that we’re voting too. As you can see– I could go on for days about my disdain what is happening but I’ll save it for a post though. 🙂 Welcome to the party, lady!

        Jazz

  36. Well I can confirm that the Vigilant Citizen is a disinfo specialist. I used to believe that he was just in it for the money but I now know better because I once posted a youtube video by Anonymous that was warning us of a new law that Obama passed that was going to continue to limit our freedoms and Vigilant promptly deleted it. Having spoken with him in email before I directed this to his attention and he said something about not wanting to anger them. When I asked who was “them”, he never responded again. That obviously incriminates him as having controllers. I don’t doubt that perhaps there was a little bit of monarch mind control programming going on there.

    • Hi Chainmaker! Sorry for the delay… major internet hiccups! 🙂

      After reading the various comments, I’m not only convinced he’s a sellout (and profiting off of the naivety of others) but I also think he is indeed mind controlled. OR at the very least– he’s a multiple personality. Hopefully people will wake up to the charade soon. And I can’t say it enough… when a solution is offered (Kick Them All Out) and that information is deleted/eliminated, etc., reader beware.

      Stay vigilant– they expect us NOT to.

      Jazz

  37. Why does anyone bother with Vigilant Citizen or people like David Icke ?…Vigilant post’s all these analysis of supposedly illuminati freemasonic occultic signs symbols & mkultra mind control programming themes within the narrative of pop music video’s but there’s only one problem….Pop videos are work of FICTION like a movie film or reading a fictional book or playing a play station game !…Mind blowin’ how people take fictional work’s as “real” just like the ayatollah khomeini took Salman Rushdie fictional “satanic verses” book as real & put a fatwa on his head ! … F-ing amazing !

  38. Hi Yoy50,

    I just found out that this article was mentioned on another website.

    http://www.lipstickalley.com/f246/madonnas-superbowl-performance-break-down-vc-367806/index3.html

    “Just a heads up to be vigilant yourself about the VC site, their owner/admin being a Mason & Disinfo agent (like Alex Jones and David Icke), even tho he exposes a lot of truth with regards to Illuminati symbolism:-

    The Vigilant Citizen (the website) is an AGENT! « Why O’ Why?”

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  40. VC was cought in a lie. He/they claimed to have seen real airplanes hit wtc. Then I was banned. The other time i tried to talk about it he/they refused so apparently they are not intrested in that. You seem to be the same way. Why will you guys not look at reality or talk about it/. Why do you all act like drama queens like alex jones and tv news full of feces. I thought you were interested in reality but you are just another bullshitter wanna be popular liek in jr high school

  41. GRR I have to retype this because I hit backspace and it went back a page and I lost everything I said.

    I was a biotch to you and I’m sorry. I did catch VC in a lie (or one of his people) saying they saw a plane on 911 and had this whole story. He deleted comments relating to it where I asked if he was military and what was his purpose. I can’t comment there anymore. I never comment on anything and I feel weird even doing it now but praise God I had to say sorry for being crazy insecure and bitch to you.

  42. I agree, they are selling the occult. Anything other than serving Almighty God Yeshua…What a bummer. My 14 year old girl said, “Mom I saw on tv commercial something about the illuminati” I was like ?!?
    I have seen ;lately , “which side are you on” several times that has nothing to do with anything. It’s created cool conversations with hubby and I trying to figure it out. THey are asking in these unimportant things like with us or not type of deal.
    Truth will rule regardless.

  43. This subject is spreading across the web like wildfire.

    Here is a list of sites that mention this subject. I tried posting this on Chauk’s blog a while back, but I take it he must of disabled the comments due all the spamming and derailing that was going on near the end. I’m posting this here instead, in case someone might be interested in it.

    http://illuminati-awareness.tumblr.com/post/18747016191/short-warning-vigilant-citizen-is-a-illuminati-disinfo

    http://www.endzeitbotschaft.de/2011/10/street-lights-that-spy-on-you-vigilant.html

    http://www.leadgusher.com/r/ttorres1/home.html

  44. earlier this morning i remember reading someone mentioning they actually saw the 9/11 event occur but something about their story sounded very off and like they were trying not to get caught up in a lie, but i still gave them the benefit of the doubt. I don’t know though *shrugs* ironic that i came on here and read about it.

  45. ya’ll are saying that you can proof that the Vc is fraud and is liar but you’re just talk and no action,by saying his ignoring your massages and removing stuff from your blogs does not cut it we want more proof,if this is the devil using people to right all this junk God will sort him out and he will be exposed.devill you are defeated and under our feet and your plans will not prevail against Godly people The Blood Of JESUS WILL NEVER LOSS IT’S POWER.END OF STORY.
    THE JUDGEMENT DAY WILL SOON COME AND WILL NO THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL SET US FREE AND THE DEVIL AND HIS FOLLOWERS WILL GO TO HELL WHERE THEY BELONG

  46. Hey where did everyone go? I’m late to the party because I just started having my own doubts about VC when he did an analysis on “I, Pet Goad II”. In the video, among other powerful symbols, there was a “christ-like” figure on an Egyptian boat coming from the underworld. On his head were the pyramid capstone and the all-seeing eye. All through the video the christ-like figure was in a trace of sorts. Vigilant’s analysis explains that the christ-like symbols are correct and so therefore, he is good. All articles before he conditioned people to believe that the symbols, no matter their placement, were seen as of evil. I was also unnerved that people look up to VC as a celebrity in his own rite. People defend him (the site) and, in doing so, become his “followers”. Creeps me out.

    • Hey you peolpe arguing with this site, you’re so stupid!
      I don’t wanna talk about the subject in question on this site, I just want invite VC to como together to this f**** retarded site and give Lots Of Laugh till fall down with tears in eyes, and pray to never find a disgusting, non sense and liar site like this.

      “devil has his tricks up his sleeve, but God always has the best cleaning products to clean these sleeves…” hehehhehehe….

  47. This shit is hilarious.

    I must admit, I don’t take any of you “conspiracy” theory folks seriously. VC pulls me in because as someone who has done extensive study into literature and journalism I find that for the most part, he relates rational and logical discourse. Admittedly the posts are getting fewer and further between, and lately its all been just digging up news articles but I’m not going to argue. Its great for a read and for me, prompts me to continue to question everything.

    I’m don’t believe everything I read or that I am told. I make up my own mind based on my own decisions and experiences. And I have had more experiences than I’d really rather like. Ive been touched by both sides of the spiritual debate in situations Im not going to relate. I read a lot of science, psychology, philosophy, folklore and other topics.

    I find it ironic we have one theorist saying “shill” without realising that their call of shill is in fact potentially what a shill would do to help foster disinformation. (No accusations, just trying to highlight the irony in all of this.)

    What pisses me off the most about VCs site is the number of religious nutcases. I am lucky enough to have the intellectual capacity and logic to understand where a) religion comes from, b) why religion is necessary, c) how a rational person can fall into religion, d) and lastly why people can’t escape from it. I also recognised that religion is a made man creation and therefore it is fallible – like science. But the sheer number of bible thumpers on sites like this is ridiculous – and VCs are especially bad.

    Can’t begin to descibe my dislike for these blinded people. They might as well be co-conspirators with their narrow blinkered thinking. That’s if there is a conspiracy 😉

    Sites like this prompt people to open their eyes. Which is a good thing. Anything that prompts folks to stop and think can’t be bad can it? Not if they actually do it.

    Think.
    Explore.
    Rationalise.
    Experience.
    Love. (Can’t stress this enough)

    These are the the fundamentals of our gift that is sentience. Do them. Live out these actions. To not is a disservice to the collective that is our race, our existence.

  48. Indeed there was something fishy about VC from the start. I wondered why on earth someone would have all these occult books and such and know SO MUCH things about the Illuminati. It’s like an expert of some sort on it and his heavy research definitely does not come from just around the corner, he takes them from books and book o.o Also, I don’t think just anyone trying to warn people about the Illuminati would have such a wide knowledge on it. This guy is so accurate as if he’s part of them or something. I get the feeling that maybe he’s part of the Illuminati and he’s working with them to expose people to what the Illuminati really is and maybe the Illuminati wants us (the public) to know more about the Illuminati because it’s a freaking trap. I mean, think about it. Why would the industry make it seem to obvious that it’s controlled by the Illuminati? They’re hardly sublime anymore. They’re just blatant. o.o They want us to know about it…. for what reason? I don’t really know why but I do get the horrid feeling that VC is part of them :O

    • They want us to know because they plan to begin taking over (moreso than they have already) and they want people to choose willingly and meet them with less resistance as possible. If VC was truly a truth-seeker and exposing them, he would be shut up like all the rest (MJ, Tupac…) for causing them to lose followers. Yet, he freely hosts a very popular and famous blog ONLINE without so much as even a hiccup of being shut down or threatened or endangered by the Illuminati. What he is doing is okay to them because he is not exposing anyone – rather, he is secretly indoctrinating the masses, and very very subtly promoting their agenda. Be very careful of him. He is using the public’s tendency to assume he is against what he is ‘exposing’ against us. He has never denounced the illumaniti or said it was necessarily a bad thing. He is fully aware that Satan is real and behind all this so-called power, yet he refuses to profess Christ as his lord and savior, saying rather that he calls himself a ‘Christian’ for the sake of convenience, but he is not bound by any religion or man-made fundamentalist ideal. Jesus said if you are not for him, you are against him. This man is publicly saying he will not serve Jesus, yet knowing all the he knows about spiritual truth and demonic oppression, wants to come off as neutral. He is a satanist and a member of the occult posing as a truth-seeker. Do nothing he says and be very careful of him and what he is writing on his blog because there is an even deeper meaning/agenda in his reason (and style of) writing it anyway.

  49. This happened to me about a year ago! I posted a comment talking about while VC’s analysis of Lady Gaga’s videos n all that were very interesting they were not helping us focus on the real issues that matter and I asked him to use his knowledge to help us find solutions I posted that comment 3 times and got deleted all three times. From then I realised he’s a fake!

  50. I made a thread on the Vigilant Citizen forums a few days ago, about censorship on VC. After 4 pages the thread got locked without explanation. Draw your own conclusions about that lol. Pretty much lost my interest to the whole site, though there are still some interesting discussions going on. And I didn’t even know there were rumors on the net about him being a shill or a disinfo agent. I wouldn’t call him that even know, but he sure is part of the controlled opposition.
    I haven’t been reading VC’s articles for a long time now, I already KNOW that stuff, no need to repeat the same things over and over again. There are a lot of kids coming to the site, judging by the comment they leave. I guess most of them are there for the entertainment value, but I wonder how long that will keep them there.

  51. Yea I heard VC was a fony but that doesn’t mean the info isn’t real. They have to be a agent to have that mass of information! But what I dnt understand is why would they explain it to us. I go and check the website out because I do find the info reliable and truth like the articles where they talk about Dumbing ppl down through food which they talked about the dangers of High Fructose corn syrup. And its true, I even went to another website which had nothing to do with VC or the illuminati and it talked about the same dangers of High Fructose Corn Syrup. But that’s where I stop! All I do is read the info I don’t leave comments ore subscribe to any ads because that’s when I feel I am becoming apart of them or just giving to much info of myself. So maybe. You should just take the info. And that’s it just read it because it just seems like too much evidence.I figure its like how VC himself said it the illuminati “Double speak” say one peaceful thing but do something cruel another. I just read the info but dnt get too invovled.

    • You reminded me of Scientology magazines that we got all of a sudden for a few months at our house. I still don’t know why…but they had an article on the effects of food coloring and other agents that affect children’s behavior. I found them interesting and curious but never subscribed. I also thought it was interesting how a coworker of mine at a different job spent 3 hours trying to convince me to go to the Scientology place and even claimed to cure disease, perhaps cancer. She did this thing on my back and arms – my back was to her and she pressed her finger really rapidly after asking each time, something like a question and I was suppose to answer I think “yes” each time…in any case it completely messed up my emotions and headspace …I dont’ know what that was…but she scared the living shit out of me. I just wanted her to do it and stop nagging me about it. Yes, perhaps these sites, mags etc. give us truth, but they also draw us in that way…remember Tom Cruise? and King Of Queens show actress – she denounced Scientology and got threats? it’s to draw you in….a veil

  52. I found your article and your right that he’s a complete disinfo agent. He’s just using the classic and simple technique of giving us information until we trust him, then we’ll be open for betrayal. I wrote to VC some years back and even tried to post on his website on related topic but was either deleted or no response. He’s just the same as Alex Jones (another wolf in sheeps clothing leading us nowhere).

    Well, I heard some years back that the original VC was arrested and replaces, but I don’t know if that was true because nothing was ever mentioned of it again.

  53. Maybe THIS site is an illuminati one in order to discredit V.C. as he is about to unveil them and gaining so much attention. who can you trust? anyone?

    • Hahahaha… lol… whoooah! whew. That was a good one! Thanks for the chuckles!

      Good you’re checking who’s who though… “for those who have eyes, let them see… for those who have ears let them hear.”

  54. Just this morning I posted a thread in the VC forums about the VC mods being biased, showing favoritism and coming across as pompous. I wrote that the VC mods were like thought police. I had expected my account to be banned as a result and I was correct. They also deleted the thread in less than an hour. I had been suspicious of VC’s agenda for a while and this certainly confirmed it. What prompted me to post the thread was my witnessing the locking of a thread posted by another member as well as personal slights against other members in the past. The OP’s thread questioned whether there may be some paid shills on the forums. That thread was locked, but it wasn’t deleted. Mine was deleted completely and I’ve been banned. To that I say hooray! I’m glad that I woke up to the VC deception. That site was quickly losing its appeal for me. Now I see that my suspicions were correct. Thanks for the insight. The rabbit hole keeps getting deeper.

    • Like… you’re friggin kidding me?!!! (“Just this morning…”) No way, Jose’! 🙂 BIG SMILES!!!!

      You’re absolutely on the right track! Please allow me to re-interject this little tidbit again (for the readers here)… ‘when offering solutions to ANY website/blog and that information is BLOCKED, we have on our hands a FRAUD’! Why we (collectively) question that will remain beyond my personal comprehension– but that’s just me! (smiles)

      VC’s going to run its’ course for sure! The masses will catch on to him (eventually) and many of his ‘co-horts’ no doubt! Bring it on Alex and IntelHub cuz VC is NOT ALONE!!!

      Thank you sooo much for the re-blogging thingy (I’m still new to the web at this level)! Very cool indeed! It’s a first and I am deeply humbled! Welcome to the family ‘rahbinah’! Very, very, cute pic by the way and I will make time to thoroughly check your blog/website before the week ends!

      Here’s a thought… “Let’s” link this comment to VC and let’s just see what we get! 😉 On the cool or back in the day– let’s just see if we have a mark!

      Jazz

  55. I do not know if it’s just me or if perhaps everyone else encountering issues with your website. It appears as if some of the written text in your content are running off the screen. Can someone else please comment and let me know if this is happening to them too? This could be a issue with my web browser because I’ve had this happen before.
    Many thanks

  56. Something I have always wondered is that people post so much stuff that cannot be substantiated. I say this because having been on the internet I generally do not trust overly negative or positive remarks and figure it is probably somewhere in the middle. Basically I don’t trust you and you don’t trust me, don’t take it personally.

    Regarding the messageboard I have posted in the past and have not come across anything too out there, or suspicious (from my time there I mostly saw different viewpoints from islam, to antizionists, christian, new age etc). Then again I take everything with a grain of salt.

    Another thing I wonder is that when given information behind-the-scenes shouldn’t there be an explanation of its relevance? I only ask because let us hypothesize that a big support is also into a special population that is known for disinfo then other troubling instances then that would be a cause of concern. However someone investing in the site does that mean you fear what? It is a business of sorts? That the politics of these men is controlling the site? Because lets say they know the owner of a site (let us say for instance it was vigilanttimes) because they were either friends with the creator or supported the cause then would it still be questionable? Or what factors does that create a sene of acceptance or (possibly forced) tolerance–with awareness or a sense of suspicion.

    I guess I never really understood the leaps from points A to B because it seems to be based on censorship (and I saw comments here censored should that trouble me?–I am curious about what sort of censorship is cause for suspicion and what is a part of life so to speak.)

    I always live my life when reading these sites is that EVERYONE is a disinfo agent in some shape or form. Sometimes intentionally or sometimes unwittingly (spreading what is actually disinfo information etc). However that said I know that as long as we live ensuring that we research, understand what we are reading (finding out sources, who paid for–ie research, who owns it, why is the information relevant etc). Regarding everyone being a disinfo it also makes me much more discretionary regrading information as a whole.

    I am not a disinfo agent or anything like that. (And I would kindly ask that you don’t assume that because I am not trusting of you or VC that I am seen as one…)

    • You almost had me with your eloquent query but;

      “(and I saw comments here censored…” is simply an outright lie.

      Dismissed.

      To every other reader here, yet another lesson in a pretty well disguised shill. As contained within this article the easiest way to know if you’re dealing with a “controlled opposition” (that’s actually what Vigiliant Citizen and others like him represent) the refusal to allow a SOLUTION for the masses is the sign to know who’s team their on. For the record; I’ve never left a comment in the forum area, my comments (as I believe I mentioned within the article) was left under Amy Winehouse’s death piece he wrote. It was the first time I commented and it was very well recieved by the readers there (actually got over 200+ thumbs up ratings much to my pleasant surprise). After he began his monthly installment of “Pics of the Month” I actually corresponded with him by sending over a dozen images I thought he’d like to contribute. Fast forward… I left a comment regarding Kickthemallout.com and sha-bam! Suddenly, I was assigned what I think is called a moderator and from there on my comment remained ‘pending approval’. Perplexed– I re-sent the same comment but OMMITED Kickthem… and that muthafucka went through. CONTROLLED OPPOSITION, ya’ll!

      • Unfortunately not a well disguised shill (my understanding was that they were paid) since I am only a broke student 🙂 The statement about censored was the omitted information I saw in some comments. I basically thought that was a form of censorship that was later clarified when I learned why. (Basically saw this blog post first then post talking about rules). So I fully concede that the statement was based on what was on the comments, not realizing there were amended rules. (Hey at least I can admit where my incorrect deduction came from).

        So I am dismissing your dismissal on the basis of my incorrect assumptions.

        Now with that taken care of then what say you of the rest of my comment? And thank you for the compliment regarding my comment.

        I mostly read the articles, tried to have my family understand why certain artists should be avoided etc and posted some on the board (I think I intentionally avoided the crazy simply to avoid stress, conflict, etc). I do agree with the sentiment of the website you posted even if I wonder if the whole system is corrupt beyond hope. I have long since been against special interest groups and really unions (they have quite the grip where I live–and because of their intentional inefficiency or demands)…oh and my family and I have not been very popular 😛

      • I know that the 80/20 rule does apply as we ALL stumble and hit our heads hard down the rabbit hole. It’s a very sophisticated network. Be sure of that going in. Trust no one but Almighty God as He is the only true way to get an understanding. Nothing is shielded to those who seek knowledge in HIM.

        My journey down this road began in 1996 but it wasn’t until I lived abroad nearly 10 years working alongside “our” military and saw with my own eyes that that “war” was darker than I ever imagined. A side note: I was also astonished to find that I was SURROUNDED by Freemasons AND Eastern Stars!! Droves of them are in the military! Completely overwhelmed, I confided in a friend (because I wanted to quit my job right then and there) who encouraged me to read; “The Halliburton Agenda” (recommended to all to understand that war is money). After blowing the whistle on a matter there, I called it quits in 2010 but I felt I had blood on my hands because I finally understood “the game”. My personal decision to share any information I find worthy of attention (because they are ALL connected) isn’t fueled by any other motive than; ‘it is the right the thing to do’. This blog has evolved in it’s knowledge that it shares only because the 80/20 rule is very true. Who can we trust in this knowledge sharing circle? Not many unfortunately but I assure everyone who comes to this blog– I have (nor does anyone who contributes here) no incentive to be on their team. I believe in the One True God and I talk about Him all the time. They simply don’t like that.

        In case it isn’t clear, we are deeply immersed in the “age of GRAND deception” (I’m paraphrasing of course) right now. The bible does warn; ‘and many will be deceived’. And while we should use the best discerning skills we have, part of their mind bending games is to present some “in plain sight” information that to us; “is simply too good to be true” yet it is! If you’re familiar with their mantra; “as above, so below”, you’ll catch my drift. I simply encourage exploration of what is presented here for yourselves. I know it’s hard for the masses to believe that FEMA camps are ready to lock and load us and could give people the source but it’s up to them to do what they will with that, isn’t it? You mentioned music for example. I worked in entertainment for nearly 19 years, family members who were musical so music has been coursing through my veins since I was an embryo. I know for a fact that you can find confirmed info on that here but you’d have to confirm that for yourself (selves). I don’t mind being questioned or challenged but I think this blog speaks for itself. Either one digs it or they don’t. As a child of God it is my duty to speak, proclaim and shout if necessary the works He is doing in me! I didn’t chose this path. As a matter of fact, I was actually “chasing” the position of A&R Director if I was ever “chasing” anything! Who knew I’d land in the Persian Gulf? hahaha lol Thank GOD it never happened though as music is hands down the devil’s playground but life has a way of bringing you to HIM! I for one am glad about that. A parting thought;

        “There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” –Soren Kierkegaard (A “Hat Tip” to Confessions of a Former White Hat Operative for the reminder.)

        Balls in your court, Passingbyagain. 😉

        Jazzne

        P.S. It would be interesting to hear why you and your family are unpopular. I love discovering activists! Oh yeah.. and unlike like some out there, I also like finding SOLUTIONS.

      • Sorry for the lateness I have been swamped with school and fairly focused on that and let a lot of stuff linger. Our family is not popular because I have been taught to be uncompromising towards the media, politicians, behavior etc. Mind you while I have been taught to be firm in what I believe in I still try (lately it’s been hard) to read what I can so that I can learn, and then amend what I believe in when able. So I’m not popular because I’m able to concede if wrong, and doing a lot of reading from different sources (though always take news media with a grain of salt), so that I can know why I believe but also learning how to read in between the lines. So often I see people take research as golden and not really look into who is funding it, what kind of data collected, the methods used and what it definitely stated etc.

    • Hi there DDT! You’re “preaching to the choir” as I’ve already peep his game. Controlled opposition with many identities and getting rich off of those naive followers. Hopefully your efforts will help many more see through him. Aside from all of that, doesn’t anyone want to ever find a solution? Again… it’s the best test to find out who you’re dealing with. 😉

      P.S. I love your “call him up and tell him you said hi”!notation (within your research) lol! Nice touch! 😉

  57. By the way, someone else mentioned they believe VC has multiple personalities. I had started to suspect (by the truth of the Lord, Jesus Christ) that VC is posting in his own comments section as different people as well as possibly having other secret illuminati members posting there as well.

  58. Hmmm I really don`t know what to say because he doesn’t always delete comments. I seen multiple off-topic comments, and also comments about solutions and they never got removed. I can tell you this because I visit articles alot of times. I think I wrote a few off-topic comments myself and they never got removed. Plus if you read about VC, he said he is a christian but he also wanted to spread the thruth to everyone (religious or not). If you read some of the comments, there somethings serious fights over how God doesn’t exist or how religion is really keeping them ‘mind controlled’ and lots of serious preaching. It causes problems, thus making a few moderators censoring them. But I can’t say I cannot disagree with you. I always thought why not sell his E-book for free, even thought it will be kind of unfair to not charge people for his hard work of revealing symbols… But how can he sell his book? How can they let him,knowing it reveals the elite’s secret evil plan? I hope of when I get the chance, to ask him these questions. Although, the reason he might’ve not anwsered a few e-mails is because: he’s a busy man, he has a life, and he also has more than one member on his site. Yet like I said, I can’t disagree with you. I’m neutral on this. I do agree we need to be wide eyed of what we read. Knowledge is Powers, my buddies.

    Goid Luck To All,
    Nyk-a-flika-flame

  59. Hi just wanted to give you a quick heads up and let you know a few of the images aren’t loading properly. I’m not sure
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  60. All I can say is keep warning your fellow neighbors, family, and people you pass on the street.Jesus Christ is coming like a thief in the night! Brothers and sisters do take time to lay your sins aside and preach this last day gospel! These devils WILL have their holiday of vengeance when the seals open! Let’s be strong in our faith and sober in our minds so that we make the rapture up out of here!Amen

  61. I tend not to drop many remarks, however i did some searching and wound up here The
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  65. i’ve read zero reasons for why i shouldnt trust VC… the main article here was short, and sounded angry and ignorant.. i have more reason to assume whoever wrote this is some agent… why else would you feel the need to speak out against them? you really think stopping the NWO is going to work by PLUGGING A WEBSITE ON ANOTHER PERSONS WEBSITE?! THAT SOUNDS FISHY TO ME. VC has TONS of insightful articles with loads of facts that can be substantiated… y’all can question VC all you want.. at least do it intelligently.

  66. The VC that us on the site now is a different person. The style of writing is hilariously prepubescent and close to conveyer belt rambling. Even his analysis is an embarrassment to the previous VC site. I wrote a few simple comments outing him and they were deleted straight away and now my comments are being “approved by the administrator” somebody doesn’t want or is afraid of the truth to coming out!

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  68. Found your page after I began to suspect VC isn’t what he appears.

    All comments citing scripture are removed.

    Not good.

  69. Wow! a lot of comments here. Here’s a juxtaposition of two websites …

    Two different websites doing vastly different things: Vigilant Citizen and Nodisinfo. The latter (NDI) has no https and allows all to write freely except if there’s an obvious threat to another ie. harm. This allows all people to write including hired trolls. Unfortunately, the author does little in protecting the one’s who are being verbally attacked and does note delete their comments or control anything in the comments section. The author always puts up articles against ‘Zionists’ and uses flashy words, pictures (many blurry), and hugely biased writing ie. basically calls everyone and everything a lie no matter if you can see a picture or not or see the “truth” or not. It’s a little scary how vehemently the trolls are wilingly to do anything (I suspect most who stay on the page and attack key commenters are actually army vets who are drinking as one actually stated that and have no other job/money options most likely due to their unfortunate disabilities or PTSD or whatever else they are dealing with.

    The VC site I always got a good feeling from ie. did not get any heaviness or OMG look at the world feeling like NDI with its extreme viewpoints. It was clear, sort of unbiased in the sense that it is information out there for you to become more aware about and it really is an interesting site. There are no blurry pictures for the most part or anything that is stressing one point of thought or direction other than discussions about it. I really enjoy the other writers ie. people who can send in their articles as well. Comments have always been put up, however on the off chance I have noticed many not including mine. It is not evident why this happens. Could be many reasons…some people are just petty and delete things they don’t want to read, others don’t like the viewpoint, perhaps even the same reasons as the writers state above.

    This is an interesting site as another option – however a ton of info. about shapeshifting which I find personally hard to believe bc otherwise thousands of people at the events, or in the offices etc. would be running to point it out. How can people not notice it and not say anything if its so prevalent…and why not the idea of pixellation? Justin Biebers court case was an obvious one of pixellation. A lot maybe has to do with making us wonder if it is or isn’t true…therefore keep us guessing, writing, wondering, researching etc. to keep us busy so we don’t focus on the real things that are important in life or what is really going on in our governing bodies, environments, schools, etc.

    The real question is…if we know, then what do we do about it? Knowing full well that tech beyond our years is already there, police state is already in motion, etc. to prevent riots, cloning has happened (remember these things are always shown to us in movies before they happen…show us the future…what do we do about it?

  70. PS: just because VC did not offer their Biblical comments or position does not mean it is not of God or anything like that. Maybe the author does not want to have a religious focus on their website or take a stand. Not everyone belongs to the majority religions either…I met a coworker a long time ago who was druid, another who was zoroastrian, and yet another hindu.

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    • VC makes his stance quite clear, what you all are doingis trying to fit eveidence to theory rather than theory to evidence. Suddenly its, “he’s promoting” cause he doesnt come out like a heavy handed slap to the face screaming ” HELL FIRE FOR ALL OF THEM!” No people, this is not the way to go about it (explained in first point above). But if you actually read what he says, he in no way supports these actions, he condemns them somewhat subtly (pretty obviously to me but some people need blatancy I guess) Using terminology such as this excerpt

      ” no regard for people they believe to be enlightened. Someone once said: “It is not about how much knowledge you have, it is about what you do with it”. What did Lucy do when she became the most intelligent person on Earth? Did she cure cancer? Did she find a solution to world hunger? Did she invent an economic system that is fair and profitable for all countries on Earth? Nope. She grabbed a gun a started shooting Asian guys. Even worse, she goes on to cause pain and suffering innocent people.”If one examines Lucy’s evolution, one realizes that she turns into exactly what the occult elite represents. She uses her powers to control people and to advance her aims despite the human suffering she is causing. She morphed into something that is not human and, all of a sudden, regular humans are treated by Lucy as lesser beings that are idiotic, manipulable and expandable.Lucy’s transformation takes a very specific direction and being a “good person” is not part of it. Her metamorphosis caused her to completely lack moral values, compassion and consideration for other human beings.”

      THIS IS A VERY CLEAR AGAINST STANCE, HE IS ANTI ELITIST AGENDA. He didnt have to write this, some people find this subtle, this is blatant and this “subtlety” is in Every Single One of his posts.

      He does not have time to do every single show, every single news report, every single song, every sinister site, every movie, every event, every game, every symbolic cover shoot. Be real people. Firstly, the symbolism is extremely repetitive, see a few you’ve seen almost all you’ll ever see. Secondly, the sheer number and schedule is far too vast…I wonder if he has a life as it is with the amount of work he puts out. The constant research, the quotations from various sources for credibility, yikes. He stays very abreast with prominent major current events, songs and shows but honestly. You emailing him about a show and him not doing an article on it is not a valid reason. You think you are the only one emailing him shows to check out or songs? HA. You think he doesnt have his own shows and songs he thinks hsould be published? Be real. That is just spoilt brat behaviour.

  72. Sigh, a little thought would be much appreciated here. I’ll make a list, DEBUNKING THIS SO ALL YOU VC WATCHERS CAN RETURN SAFELY TO VC. Read Objectively please, thnak you

    1. Do you know why he doesnt come across as blatantly dismissing the agenda? Let me explain, firstly, when you have non-believers in Christ you dont want to scare them off and have them dismiss what you’re saying as “Christian imagination” This is a real agenda that is taking place and affects EVERYONE not just the Christian community and you want everyone to be aware of it. Christiainity is diminishing and it will only continue to diminish so if he appeals only to us Christians then when we are outnumbered everything is smooth sailing as the majority will discard it as “Christian imagination”. We already have a hard enough time getting past the “Conspiracy theorist” label as it is.

    2.VC makes his stance quite clear, what you all are doingis trying to fit eveidence to theory rather than theory to evidence. Suddenly its, “he’s promoting” cause he doesnt come out like a heavy handed slap to the face screaming ” HELL FIRE FOR ALL OF THEM!” No people, this is not the way to go about it (explained in first point above). But if you actually read what he says, he in no way supports these actions, he condemns them somewhat subtly (pretty obviously to me but some people need blatancy I guess) Using terminology such as this excerpt

    ” no regard for people they believe to be enlightened. Someone once said: “It is not about how much knowledge you have, it is about what you do with it”. What did Lucy do when she became the most intelligent person on Earth? Did she cure cancer? Did she find a solution to world hunger? Did she invent an economic system that is fair and profitable for all countries on Earth? Nope. She grabbed a gun a started shooting Asian guys. Even worse, she goes on to cause pain and suffering innocent people.”If one examines Lucy’s evolution, one realizes that she turns into exactly what the occult elite represents. She uses her powers to control people and to advance her aims despite the human suffering she is causing. She morphed into something that is not human and, all of a sudden, regular humans are treated by Lucy as lesser beings that are idiotic, manipulable and expandable.Lucy’s transformation takes a very specific direction and being a “good person” is not part of it. Her metamorphosis caused her to completely lack moral values, compassion and consideration for other human beings.”

    THIS IS A VERY CLEAR AGAINST STANCE, HE IS ANTI ELITIST AGENDA. He didnt have to write this, some people find this subtle, this is blatant and this “subtlety” is in Every Single One of his posts.

    3. You ae spamming his site with your own site promotion…that is spam, i would have removed your comment. It is spam and it is disrespectful to his site. You could have informed him privately and see if he incorporated these solutions( If they are even deemed viable) into his site. But to straight up advertise that site on his is distasteful and disrespectful. He has worked very hard to establish his base, his site wasnt always this large and for all he knows your site could be disinformation or eventually become one and he would be responsible for having people over there in the first place. I would not put my head on a block for some one else’s site just like that either.

    4. He does not have time to do every single show, every single news report, every single song, every sinister site, every movie, every event, every game, every symbolic cover shoot. Be real people. Firstly, the symbolism is extremely repetitive, see a few you’ve seen almost all you’ll ever see. Secondly, the sheer number and schedule is far too vast…I wonder if he has a life as it is with the amount of work he puts out. The constant research, the quotations from various sources for credibility, yikes. He stays very abreast with prominent major current events, songs and shows but honestly. You emailing him about a show and him not doing an article on it is not a valid reason. You think you are the only one emailing him shows to check out or songs? HA. You think he doesnt have his own shows and songs he thinks hsould be published? Be real. That is just spoilt brat behaviour.

    • Um… who exactly are you talking to? Your rebuttals have little to do with the claim in the published article not to mention the fact that it was published back in 2011…

      Sniff-sniff– I smell a shill coming on (AGAIN– YAWN).

      Jazz
      The Captain of THIS Ship

      • Im addressing your claims and the recurring claims made by individuals in the thread obviously. It’s sad the only response you can muster is “Yawn” followed my conjecture with absolutely no basis OR EVIDENCE but this appears to be your M.O. vs my well laid out detailed response,with quotations as evidence where necessary vs your weak unsubstantiated claims. You’re full of it and I’m calling you out. Honestly, spamming an individuals site shows absolutely no respect or regard for it especially repeatedly and is more than enough reason to be removed and even blocked. It being posted in 2011 didnt seem to be an issue when people responded in agreeance with you in late 2014 (up to 7 months ago) funny how suddenly that you’ve made out the date of response is an issue. You’re discredit campaign is a sad sham and your lack of respect for fellow exposers is appalling, slandering them for the promotion of your own site because you couldn’t have your own disrespectful way with theirs. Absurd.

        Again, I’m calling you out

      • Boy please! Why are you on his tip so hard? You do realize he doesn’t know you at all? You are clearly a shill as what I warned people about was cut and dry. I’m not going to “debate” the matter. You are a shill and obviously paid pretty well, at that.

        And respect is EARNED! He lost any respect I might have offered for his clear censorship. “Truthers” spread the knowledge– not block it. He’s just like Alex Jones, Mark Dice, Joe Rogan, etc. And did you really call this “heads up” a friggin “campaign”? Wow. You called yourself out.

        Fellow people– take note– paid shill 101.

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